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Cieprus 05-30-2002 09:21 PM

Ugly temps....
 
Well I got my maze3 going. Im using a tranny cooling 6 pass rad.

And I Idle at about 47...

This isnt correct, I should have better temps.

My ambiants about 32.

Im using water wetter...

Hmmm, Ill have to tweak it :eek:

ambient 05-30-2002 09:26 PM

Yeah that is not great. Are you going to try the BLPro?

Cieprus 05-30-2002 09:28 PM

BLPro???

Cieprus 05-30-2002 09:29 PM

Maybe I should check how I mounted my block?

cause with a 6 pass rad, i should get good temps...

Im using 2 120mm 85cfm fans on it

Cyco-Dude 05-30-2002 09:45 PM

let it sit a day or so and see what happens. also, what are your full load temps?
if it doesnt change in a couple days, id remount the block and check to make sure the core is making a good imprint on the waterblock. what thermal paste are you using? you might try using a little more...

Cieprus 05-30-2002 09:47 PM

Im using Antec Silver...

I dont knnow what my full load temps are let, Im afraid to find out.

Ill try later, its getting late.

Cieprus 05-30-2002 09:57 PM

Well, my water temp is 31, my ambiant is 32...

Should my core be around there? if working well????

Must be my mounting

Alaric_2000 05-30-2002 09:59 PM

I'm having the same problems bud with a 2100+ and Maze3. Springs are compressed completely. Can't seem to get lower than 48C (using CPUIdle and it goes to 42C)

Heavy_Equipment 05-30-2002 10:02 PM

Quote:

Im using a tranny cooling 6 pass rad.
Tranny coolers do not work. Period.

Heater core, heater core, heater core.

The 1984 chevette unit is the best one I've used.
(Ford Bronco core is larger, but it's got weird fitting sizes)

Cyco-Dude 05-30-2002 11:19 PM

i believe hes using a BI Pro...right?

schoolie 05-30-2002 11:21 PM

How can your water temp be lower than your ambient temp?


edit: I'm a fool:)

Cyco-Dude 05-30-2002 11:26 PM

lol, thats how it normally is. check what ya wrote bro ;)
but yeah, water temp lower than ambient?? methinks ur readings are off

webmedic 05-30-2002 11:47 PM

Like said above get a rad. Next are your fans running 7v or 12. Even with water cooling you either need a huge rad or a decent fan pulling a fair amount of air. Whithout it you will only get normal temps but it will be quite. You have to choose what you want but you will not get both. Killer temps even in water cooling will mean more noise.

bigben2k 05-31-2002 06:59 AM

The problem might simply be with the fast flow rate but yes, there's a problem.

1-Look at the mounting
2-try to clamp a hose, just to see if a reduced flow rate would perform better.
3-Knowing your pump, you picked a really bad rad (my opinion). You should try a big heater core, since your pump won't be limited as much by the pressure drop.

Cieprus 05-31-2002 07:23 AM

Here is some mor info.

I have a 6 pass tranny cooler, AND another 4 pass...The 4 pass is not hooked up.

fans are 12v of course.

Umm the tranny rad has 3/8 fittings, But I could cut them down, and then they will be 1/2.

No Im not using the BI Pro, Its damaged and Im trying to fix it. Ill try it later if it works. (Long story)

I was using water wetter with my water, Ya my readings were probally off. They must be around 31-32 water and ambiant. Ambiant being lower.

bigben2k 05-31-2002 07:31 AM

then hook up the 4 pass as well. This will (hopefully) reduce your flow rate a bit, and give you better performance.

BTW, you can stack tranny coolers, that's what they're good for...

Cieprus 05-31-2002 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigben2k
The problem might simply be with the fast flow rate but yes, there's a problem.

1-Look at the mounting
2-try to clamp a hose, just to see if a reduced flow rate would perform better.
3-Knowing your pump, you picked a really bad rad (my opinion). You should try a big heater core, since your pump won't be limited as much by the pressure drop.

I couls make my rads have 1/2 fittings instead of the 3/8...

And I can run both rads...Which will be about a 10 pass.

bigben2k 05-31-2002 07:35 AM

The 10 pass will help, but I'd hold off on trimming those fittings. Test your rig with the 2 rads first.

Cieprus 05-31-2002 07:45 AM

This is the impeller of my pump.

THere are rubber fins, and there bend that way, Its odd, I hope someone will understand my Idea.

I was thinking, what If I cut some of the fins off? Would it lower the GPH?

I odnt know how many fins there are.

Just an Idea

Cieprus 05-31-2002 07:49 AM

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Opps :rolleyes:

Cieprus 05-31-2002 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigben2k
The 10 pass will help, but I'd hold off on trimming those fittings. Test your rig with the 2 rads first.
Ya I plan on it, I need more fans!!!

The reason Im disaponted is because I was using a cheap $15 Staples HSF, and I had temps around 35-37!!!! Seriously!

Ive been using the same temp prob for both..Well On-board.

bigben2k 05-31-2002 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cieprus
This is the impeller of my pump.

THere are rubber fins, and there bend that way, Its odd, I hope someone will understand my Idea.

I was thinking, what If I cut some of the fins off? Would it lower the GPH?

I odnt know how many fins there are.

Just an Idea

Bad idea... very bad idea... You'd be much better off clamping a hose.

The rubber fins are what makes your pump so strong. They are very specifically mesured and altering them, even in the least, could render the pump inoperable.

If you STILL insist on modding your pump, consider folding a couple of fins back on themselves: it's not a permanent mod.

Volenti 05-31-2002 09:00 AM

Don't trim the impeller, unless you have a spare or a replacement part is cheap.

Your high reported temps are probably the result of the "dead air" effect around the socket when you take away the airflow that the heatsink fan was delivering over the motherboard around the socket.

in other words, your temp sensor is being heated by nearby components that would otherwise be cooled by the wash off the normal heatsink/fan.

sunblade 05-31-2002 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cieprus
This is the impeller of my pump.

THere are rubber fins, and there bend that way, Its odd, I hope someone will understand my Idea.

I was thinking, what If I cut some of the fins off? Would it lower the GPH?

I odnt know how many fins there are.

Just an Idea

Nooo, don't try and trim the fins yourself unless you have really accurate equipment. The impeller needs to be perfectly balanced, or it will start to shake and rattle and kill itself when it starts up (depending on how unbalanced it is). You would need to cut each fin to exactly the same length. If you wanted to remove a whole fin, you would need to balance it by removing a fin on the opposite side IF the fins are arranged in an even pattern. You might find that the fins are arranged in a pentagon shape, and you couldn't really remove a fin from each side due to the angles.

Cieprus 05-31-2002 11:31 AM

Ya you guys are right, I never thought of that, having them the same size that is.

Ill try using a temp probe on the core, see what that reads.


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