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mkosem 07-02-2002 01:20 PM

revamping my system. What block to get?
 
What Block should I get and why? I may be getting pelt(s) soon so that option would be a plus.

I'm running:

XP1900+@1800mhz(more to come soon)
D-Tek Heatercore
ViaAqua 1300

--Matt

bigben2k 07-02-2002 01:45 PM

one Pelt: I'd go with the TC-4.

two pelts: you have to stick with your maze 2, unless you want to get into some customizing (if yar crazier than me!).

mkosem 07-02-2002 01:50 PM

how would one use a pelt with the tc-4? it has no pelt plate available.

--Matt

Brad 07-02-2002 01:51 PM

For one pelt I quite like the big Swifty, for two you're forced to use a Maze2-2

mkosem 07-02-2002 01:54 PM

I have a maze2-2 right here also. I'm thinkin one 220 or 226 watt pelt will be good tho.

--MAtt

Pyrotechnic 07-02-2002 01:59 PM

you can buy a swiftech with pelts and gaskets complete.

mkosem 07-02-2002 02:17 PM

yes, and the really cool thing is I can get it without the foam, pelt, etc. and when I want it I can get it!

--Matt

max007007 07-03-2002 02:31 AM

Get Cyclone5 thin base version.

mkosem 07-04-2002 10:31 AM

are they available in the states?

--Matt

mkosem 07-04-2002 10:49 PM

why are you people saying maze3? there's not even a real review about it! The temps seem to suck compared to other blocks also.

--Matt

Sanjuro 07-04-2002 10:52 PM

I agree :)

bigben2k 07-05-2002 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mkosem
how would one use a pelt with the tc-4? it has no pelt plate available.
--Matt

You just have to be a little creative.

The TC-4 had thick corners, which could be tapped to mount a coldplate. If you can afford it, get a silver coldplate ($100us).

The Maze 3 is a great looking block. I think that most people that made the switch from a Maze 2 got a couple of extra degrees.

Personally, I don't like the Maze 2. I think that the channels are too restrictive, and not milled with much care, resulting in high flow restriction. I prefer the new spiral at dtek, and of course the TC-4.

In theory, the TC-4 performs better because of the turbulators, but it'll be very restrictive. Also in theory, the new Spiral performs better because it allows more flow (i.e. less restrictive), probably more than most blocks.

Either way, I believe that the best performance can be achieved with the highest flow, and it would be very easy to do that with the new Spiral. It'd be a little harder to get a very high flow out of the TC-4, given the same pump (as above), but the performance should be equal. A TC-4 with a very, very powerful pump would probably outperform everything.

Right now, that's what I'm considering: a TC-4 and a very, very powerfull pump. I just have to find a pump that's quiet...

mkosem 07-06-2002 03:25 PM

I'm to the point where I may get a regular good block and make a dehumidifier chiller rather than pelts.

--Matt

bigben2k 07-06-2002 07:21 PM

Go nuts (like me and gmat) and do both...

mkosem 07-06-2002 10:13 PM

got any pix or anything?

--Matt

bigben2k 07-07-2002 01:14 PM

Oh we haven't done it, but we're willing.

There's a character here by the name of Punisher that's doing it right now. Maybe you can e-mail him.

invariant 07-07-2002 06:32 PM

Hi,

Just a quick question about the TC4. How many people actually have a TC4 rev2 in a system and have measured thermal dissipation accurately?

Thank you,

Roberto

resago 07-09-2002 11:42 AM

maze 3-1 with copper top.

V12|V12 07-09-2002 04:45 PM

Hey, Try out the TC-4... and PLEASE sell me your MAZE 2!!!!!!!!!!!

invariant 07-09-2002 07:09 PM

Why should anybody try out the TC4?

jtroutma 07-09-2002 11:52 PM

I don't know about "trying out" the TC-4 but at leat I can say that I have one running in my system right now :)

AS for its performance........................At least it didn't go up in temps. My first block was a BE Cooling "Jagged Edge" waterblock and it worked fine. I moved to the TC-4 for several reasons: looks WAY cool, uses MB mounting screws vs. clamp that the BE block required, used something to "sturr up" the water, and it is a "snake" design (AKA water goes in the bottom and always moves up to the top and then exits).

Both the BE Block and the TC-4 hold a 6-7degree delta from my case temps.

I think my radiator is maxing out instead of the block so I am planning on adding a modded Black Ice II to my rig to get my temps down some more.

Otherwise the TC-4 looks like a real winner.


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