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webmedic 07-07-2002 01:59 AM

What do you think?
 
Well I havn't said one way or another but I'm now producing water kits. I'll only post this once as I don't want to use this to advertise but I do want others to know I make these.

Pics:

First revision, they are now shorter:
http://community.webshots.com/album/35111553UecmAe

Second revision the shorter model:
http://community.webshots.com/album/40268738Vcjeom

testing against a maze2 block:
http://community.webshots.com/album/38150901opPARw

the new p4 version:
http://community.webshots.com/album/42481456UcNmrz

Any reply apriciated. Also just to make it clear I sell these.

The website will be up in a few days.

RedTalon19 07-07-2002 02:33 AM

definitly a schweet lookin block man... i take it those are all 1/2" fittings there? defintily looks like it but hell for all i know it could be 5/8"...

on a side note, you might want a full size image of the comparison screenshots... its really hard to tell the speed and temps when they are resized smaller like that... made my eyes hurt :(

Khledar 07-07-2002 04:31 AM

Really nice looking product; the one thing I'm wondering is: "Are these going to be competatively priced, or more of a custom/novelty item?"

Thanks!

webmedic 07-07-2002 08:30 AM

They are 5/8 inch fittings all my setups are flow optimized. All the fitings even of the rad and res/pumps have at least 1/2 id. Unlike all the systems out there with 1/2 inch barbs that have 1/4 id.

As for the pics down at the bottom of the page below the pic you can click the link that says view full size. This will give you the full size screenshot. In most cases this will 1280x1024. Should be big enough to see easily.


Priceing will be 45$ for the blocks. So I'm hoping that is competative. We are looking at getting some custom pelts to fit on them also.

The big thing will be our custom case work which will also be competative. Can't say more on this but you will see.

toddalaska 07-07-2002 08:55 AM

Ive been eyeballing your stuff down in the fs/ft forum, looks pretty good.

I like the different block than jsut the pure block. I guess i oughtta go read the testing thing to see how it goes.


what type and size of pumps you recccomend for that cloak.

webmedic 07-07-2002 09:10 AM

Well i've used ehiem 1250 317gph pump, rena 450gph pump, a couple rio's around 200gph, and my faves the via auqua's. For the via's I've used 130gph, 370gph, and will be trying soonish the via 782 gph pump. So far all but the rio's give the same temps for the testing equipment I have. The rio's ran consistently 2c hotter than anything else. For the most part my kits will come with either the 130gph or 370gph pump but that will be the customers choice. I'm not sure how many will opt for the monster pump but I want to offer them anyway. So to make it short I guess the 370gph pump would be the best choice of price performance.

toddalaska 07-07-2002 09:19 AM

i got the vbia 1300 now it is a good pump, the only thing i dont like is the screws holdong down the block, i know there better I just like to do alot of swapping of cpus for testing etc.


You make the reses fior the vias dont you Webmedic?

Im runing my 1300 inline but are they submersible too? I think they are but this is a good chance for me to verify it.


what are you thinking on the kit as far as price, I got a buddy just looking into water cooling now that hes seen the results of mine.

webmedic 07-07-2002 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by toddalaska
i got the vbia 1300 now it is a good pump, the only thing i dont like is the screws holdong down the block, i know there better I just like to do alot of swapping of cpus for testing etc.
Well I found with this type is screw system (It's the same as the alpha pal and swiftech air cooled blocks use) is the easyest to use. I'm like you swapping stuff all the time and testing different things to find out what works best. The only disadvantage for me is that I also test allot of motherboards and this means that I have to set up all my motherboards before I can test them.

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You make the reses fior the vias dont you Webmedic?

Im runing my 1300 inline but are they submersible too? I think they are but this is a good chance for me to verify it.

Yes I make submerged versions of the via's in a res and they run just fine this way. Ask Fragenstien he has one.
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what are you thinking on the kit as far as price, I got a buddy just looking into water cooling now that hes seen the results of mine.

I'm looking at distributing hwlabs stuff also but to be quite frank for the money the heater core/shroud outperforms them by a bit. The only thing the hwlabs stuff is good for is if you are limited for space in your case and soon we will have a kit which will address this need. It will only require 1 5 1/4 bay and you will have to do some cutting on your case. The advantage will be that the whole kit will be mounted on the outside of the case but it will be tastefull. I can't say more it may be at least a month before I have something to show but it will be good I promise.

As for price we are still working on that one I have two things left to get. I'm looking for a good supplier of tygon type tubing and may be able to get it at substantial discout so it may be standard on my kits with silicone tubing as an option. The last part will be the hold downs for the water block I'm still looking for a good place to get these. I'm using the swiftech stuff right now and it works well but I can't continue to purchase the stuff from them. Thier prices are to high for the parts. Right now it looks like a basic kit will be available for arround 140$ with the expensive version arround 200$.

toddalaska 07-07-2002 10:51 AM

Im assuming by the fs/ft forum post that you do have some of the parts all assembled if sombody wanted to purchase say a block or a res individually

webmedic 07-07-2002 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddalaska
Im assuming by the fs/ft forum post that you do have some of the parts all assembled if sombody wanted to purchase say a block or a res individually
Yes kits or individual parts are fine. And even if I don't have them in I can have them made within two days or so. The guy helping me with this lives only a couple miles from me.

toddalaska 07-07-2002 02:24 PM

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...37356184wVQmBX


is that the custom rad? or could post a pic or link of the custom rad.


or of the heater core type setup, Im a fond believer in heater cores:D

redleader 07-07-2002 03:27 PM

Quote:

They are 5/8 inch fittings all my setups are flow optimized. All the fitings even of the rad and res/pumps have at least 1/2 id. Unlike all the systems out there with 1/2 inch barbs that have 1/4 id.
Wow. Combined with all that surface area this could definately be a winner.

webmedic 07-07-2002 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddalaska
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...37356184wVQmBX


is that the custom rad? or could post a pic or link of the custom rad.


or of the heater core type setup, Im a fond believer in heater cores:D

It's a heater core. The only custom part is the pipes I put in it. I agree I'm thinking of carying hwlabs bloack ice stuff but it doesn't perform as goos as heater cores. It's only good if you are space limited.

FRAGN'STIEN 07-07-2002 10:39 PM

I run webs gear and it works great check out the temp pics.


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