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big|d0g 08-25-2002 02:18 PM

Spir@l needs a good clean :/
 
My setup has some crap in it,only thing its in the waterblock only looks like some bits of fluff or somit the systems only 3 weeks old my question is can i take the top of without the need for a new o-ring?

RickCain 08-25-2002 09:57 PM

Get the copper cleaner from Dtek and your set.

FRAGN'STIEN 08-25-2002 11:03 PM

As long as it doesn't tear or break in half it should be fine.

ambient 08-25-2002 11:03 PM

I took mine off like 3 times. I cleaned it with lemon juice and vinegar the first time, but I got some corrosion when I put it back together. So I had to clean it again. The second time I used Tarnax. That stuff works great!! A soak for 10 minutes and it will look like brand new cooper. You can get it at the grocery, or hardware store. Then It sat for a bit, so right before installing I took it apart again and cleaned it one last time.

ambient 08-25-2002 11:05 PM

oh yeah almost forgot. Just leave the O-ring alone. I didn't take mine out. It probably won't come out without damaging it. I tried, but started to F it up. :p

big|d0g 08-26-2002 03:28 AM

Thx :)

|PuNiSh3R| 08-26-2002 02:14 PM

hah if i broke my O ring i would just put a bead of silicon sealant around where the Oring sat and then put the top on.. so it seals with the top too :)

let it dry for 24-36 hours.. BAM! you are good :)

ambient 08-27-2002 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by big|d0g
Thx :)
np.

Ice Czar 08-29-2002 01:27 AM

you can keep rubber O rings happy with a liberal application of WD40, keeps them from drying out (not that there is much danger of that in this application) goes for all rubber parts
oil barrier

sunblade 08-29-2002 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ambient
I took mine off like 3 times. I cleaned it with lemon juice and vinegar the first time, but I got some corrosion when I put it back together. So I had to clean it again. The second time I used Tarnax. That stuff works great!! A soak for 10 minutes and it will look like brand new cooper. You can get it at the grocery, or hardware store. Then It sat for a bit, so right before installing I took it apart again and cleaned it one last time.
Tarnax, the silver polish solution? I'm assuming it didn't damage the o-ring at all?

ambient 08-29-2002 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sunblade
Tarnax, the silver polish solution? I'm assuming it didn't damage the o-ring at all?
no it didn't, at least from what I could tell. I mean I cleaned it twice with the tarnax and i've had it installed for about a month now and now leaks :D. Also the physical appearance of the o-ring was unchanged after cleaning. I did put a little Hyper Lube on the whole block after I cleaned it to try and protect from corrosion, but that didn't help and I ended up having to clean the block again.

*mat-ster* 08-30-2002 07:49 PM

Quote:

you can keep rubber O rings happy with a liberal application of WD40, keeps them from drying out (not that there is much danger of that in this application) goes for all rubber parts
No dis-respect, but.....I would advise against this (and the Tarnax for that matter), it depends on the type of rubber, in fact WD40 is often used as an Environmental Stress - degrading agent in polymer and rubber testing.

The copper cleaning stuff http://dtekcustoms.safeshopper.com/18/136.htm?53 and a new O-Ring or 3 sounds like the best solution.

2old_honda 08-30-2002 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by |PuNiSh3R|
hah if i broke my O ring i would just put a bead of silicon sealant around where the Oring sat and then put the top on.. so it seals with the top too :)

let it dry for 24-36 hours.. BAM! you are good :)

do not do that just buy a new O ring, they are only a few cents at any hardware store.

sunblade 08-30-2002 08:40 PM

Where do you order spir@l o-ring replacements? Is it the same as the TC-4? I only see TC-4r2 o-rings on dtek's site.

<edit> Also, I have a tube of liquid gasket type stuff, so that might be an interesting fix. </edit>

bigben2k 08-31-2002 11:01 AM

For those interested, if you pickup a Viton o-ring, it's made of a material that is oil resistant, so you could use petroleum jelly to seal it.

Ice Czar 08-31-2002 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by *mat-ster*
No dis-respect, but.....I would advise against this (and the Tarnax for that matter), it depends on the type of rubber, in fact WD40 is often used as an Environmental Stress - degrading agent in polymer and rubber testing.

The copper cleaning stuff http://dtekcustoms.safeshopper.com/18/136.htm?53 and a new O-Ring or 3 sounds like the best solution.

Hmmm...Really?
Ive been using it for years on the rubber parts of my ZX900 (Ninja) to keep the carburetor boots supple ect.

"What surfaces or materials are OK to use WD-40 on?
WD-40 can be used on just about everything. It is safe for metal, rubber, wood and plastic. WD-40 can be applied to painted metal surfaces without harming the paint. Polycarbonate and clear polystyrene plastic are among the few surfaces on which to avoid using a petroleum-based product like WD-40."

http://www.wd40.com/Brands/wd40_faqs.html

I guess they could be lying, but Ive had no problems with it in over 10 years and my XZ900's rubber parts are originals (1985)

nikhsub1 09-01-2002 11:10 AM

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Here is mine, done with Flitz and a dremel buffing wheel! Then I soaked it in Tulene to remove all residue. I had no problem getting the o-ring out and putting it back. What was weird was the lexan top was not on very tight, actually it was barely screwed on!

Administrator 09-01-2002 11:13 AM

Wow thats got a good deal of Bling Bling! :)

heheh looking good!

ambient 09-02-2002 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by nikhsub1
Here is mine, done with Flitz and a dremel buffing wheel! Then I soaked it in Tulene to remove all residue. I had no problem getting the o-ring out and putting it back. What was weird was the lexan top was not on very tight, actually it was barely screwed on!

mine was the same way, not very tight


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