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mo 09-19-2002 12:41 PM

Power Outage
 
Heres a scenario...

You just finished setting up your super duper overclocked out the wazooo watercooled system. You've tweaked it and maxed it out to the extreme and you have the cpu pushed to its limit. Your pump is sending out water to your waterblock which cools the cpu down and stops it from frying itself, when oops... POWER OUTAGE. That shit happens in Montreal at least a couple times a year... Hydro just mucks shit up. Having a APC backup wouldnt help either because unless you invest into something obscene, you are just looking at 45 minutes grace before the battery dies. And if you arent there to see it happen, your still going to end up with a potentially red hot cpu, with no more water being pushed to cool it down.

Is this a non issue?

bigben2k 09-19-2002 12:47 PM

If your mobo doesn't have OCP, then read this

Skulemate 09-19-2002 04:16 PM

I think I'm missing something... if the power is off, then how's your computer still making heat? And if your answer is "well, I have an UPS" then my next question is why don't you have your pump plugged into that instead of your monitor?

mo 09-19-2002 04:38 PM

if a pc shuts off abruptly theres a couple of seconds where the processor temp will rise. Herein lies my concern. And like I said, the battery pack is only useful if the power comes back within its lifetime. Your point is valid though. Im just wondering if the temp rise in seriously overclocked processors in a power cut outage would cause damage to the processor or if its a non issue.

Not sure what OCP is but hopefully the link will have that answer:)

bigben2k 09-19-2002 04:51 PM

That would involve the copper block temp rising above 65 deg C, and I don't believe that that could happen within 2 seconds, heck not even within 2 minutes!

OCP is a built-in circuit (on the mobo) that reads the diode and shuts itself off once it reaches a set temp. It needs to be this way because the CPU (AMD) would fry almost instantly if the cooling device falls off (not likely). Otherwise it's good on-board protection. pH's gizmo will work equally well.

Skulemate 09-19-2002 04:53 PM

Mo, I am willing to bet that the mass of the block, as well as the mass of water in it are more than able to take this small bif of heat.

mo 09-19-2002 05:34 PM

Just making sure. Trying to think of anything that could possibly go wrong:)

wymjym 09-19-2002 05:43 PM

things can go wrong but your concern about the heat spike and no flow is a non issue, I promise.
water cooled for several years....
wj

Heavy_Equipment 09-20-2002 07:00 PM

I have pulled the plug on my pump a few times, just to see the 'what if'. I'm referring to back when I was ambient cooling BTW.
The "fastest" my temps ever rose to critical was over about 12 minutes, under full load.
There's no way you are going to see the split second temp spikes you are referring to, on a system that is off.

I sure wouldn't recommend having your computer on a UPS, without the cooling backed-up too. Sure the pump would suck the life out of the battery time, but you are just waiting for the BBQ otherwise.

bigben2k 09-20-2002 08:09 PM

Thanks Heavy, that was...

Mo, there are more things to worry about, like what happens when something goes wrong if you left the house, and the comp is on. What if your pump dies? What if you spring a leak?

OCP is the answer, in every case.

mo 09-20-2002 08:40 PM

Thanks guys. The fear just popped into my mind on seeing a "gadget" that helps cool the pc when you power it off. The thought just crossed my mind and I realise now it is a non issue:)

Im literally tingling with excitement:) Maze3 is on its way in the mail and so is my pump. Next week I get it to put it all together. wheee!

Heavy_Equipment 09-20-2002 09:29 PM

Quote:

Thanks Heavy, that was...
Yeah, I see your...
;)

Just giving him some practical experience.

redleader 09-20-2002 10:18 PM

Quote:

if a pc shuts off abruptly theres a couple of seconds where the processor temp will rise
How? And don't say capacitance. Thats not going to heat a liter of water and kilo of copper 15 C.


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