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hmale 10-29-2002 11:25 AM

Starting a new project
 
Hi guys,

I am starting a new project that will ultimately involve cooling a P4 using a yet undetermined water block and a 220/226 Watt TEC. Currently leaning towards a Swiftech 478-UHT.

I have resurrected some components that I have used in the past as I do not want to spend loads of money on this.

The heater core I will be using:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../radiator1.jpg

http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../radiator4.jpg

http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../radiator4.jpg

Some specs:
+Fin area: 10" X10" X 2" (278% greater surface area compared to a typical 6" X 6" heater core)
+Overall: 14" X 11" X 2.5"
+Mounting plates
+5/8" inlet and outlet

Cheers!

bigben2k 10-29-2002 11:35 AM

Let me guess... It's from a Chrysler.

Linky

Nice one. How do you plan to mount it inside of a case?

hmale 10-29-2002 12:05 PM

Hi Ben,

What took you so long to come up with that?? LOL

I figured I would use the following case to accommodate the new setup:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../case_pic2.jpg

http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../case_pic4.jpg

http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../case_pic8.jpg

Some manufacturer's specs:
Heavy Duty All Steel Construction
Has Sixteen 5.25" Drive Bays Exposed
Optional Two Internal 3.5" Drive Bays
Dual Motherboard Capability
Accepts Two Power Supplies, or Two Hot Swap Power Supply Systems.
Lockable Front Door for Security
Includes Four Locking Casters
Accepts up to Five Cooling Fans (Optional)
32½"H x 14¼"W x 25"D (with Casters)
Weight = Approx. 70 lbs

Cheers!

g.l.amour 10-29-2002 12:39 PM

looks like the same mobo form factor as the case i converted. came from a Pentium Pro dual processor machine.

it looks twice the size my case, and that was already a huge behemoth of a case. u can mount a couple of those rads in there if u want...

g'luck with the project

hmale 10-29-2002 01:06 PM

Thanks G.L.

I was able to repair the pump I was hoping to use for this project. It is the Hydrothruster Q2.

I do not have a picture, but here is a blurb from the manufacturer:
"The Hydrothrustor Q2 magnetic drive pump has one pump head on each side of its electric drive. The combined flow of both heads is 1050 g.p.h. at a one foot height. Pressure reaches 9.5 PSI in each head, so that the unit will lift water approximately 21 feet straight up. The unit is quiet, smooth running, and so efficient that it only draws 1.2 amps of electric current."

Additionally, I added a regulator to the pump'c circuitry in order to manage flow rate.

Cheers!

airspirit 10-29-2002 01:07 PM

F*ckin' A, dude, that case is a monster.

hmale 10-29-2002 09:23 PM

Update
 
Making some quick progress here. I got the fan that I will be using for the heater core.

http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...t/Fan/fan2.jpg

Here is the back of the fan...it is reversible BTW
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...t/Fan/fan5.jpg

Here is the fan mounted on the heater core
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...an/FanRad1.jpg

http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...an/FanRad2.jpg

http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...an/FanRad3.jpg

Here are some specs on the fan:
19128 8" Standard Electric Fan
Mounting Area Req'd: 8" x 10" x 2-1/4"
Est. CFM:800
Motor RPM:3000
AMP Draw:4.5

BTW, I cleaned up and polished the heater core..quite a difference from the pictures in the previous post!

Cheers!

nexxo 10-30-2002 01:38 PM

What? Was that flagship case not enough?!? You crazy insatiable person, you! Lordy, lordy, lordy, what sort of crazy messed-up world are we bringing our kids into... :p

hmale 10-30-2002 02:11 PM

Nexxo...It's never enough! You know that. LOL

Cheers!

hmale 10-30-2002 02:16 PM

update
 
I have constructed an airtrap/reservoir assembly using 1/2" and 3/4" clear PVC pipe for the new project.

These are some of the fittings I used:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../Misc/fit1.jpg

Here is the finished product attached to the Hydrothruster's inlet:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../Misc/fit2.jpg

The pump will be mounted vertically in the case like so:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../case_pic7.jpg

Well, back to work for me.

Cheers!

mfpmax 10-30-2002 02:40 PM

Where did you get that fan!
I need two for my car :)

hmale 10-30-2002 03:19 PM

Here's the link to the fan

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...61&cgrfnbr=561

Cheers!

nexxo 10-30-2002 04:21 PM

OK, where did you get those clear PVC tube components?

Do you know where I can find brass 1/2" barbs, which will screw into 15mm (0.6 inch) ID tubes?

You always come up with that sexy stuff...
:drool:

hmale 10-30-2002 04:29 PM

Here is the link to the clear pvc fittings:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/cat...ittings&Page=1

For the brass fittings serach through www.mcmaster.com

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

g.l.amour 10-30-2002 05:14 PM

u americans have "fallen with your asses in the butter" as ppl would say in belgium. (don't feel offended , ;-) just means u r really lucky ppl). i wouldn't dream of getting all that stuff from normal web/shops in belgium/europe...

keep us posted dude

Puzzdre 10-30-2002 05:18 PM

I'll drop with one from CRO, 'Dropped the spoon rigt into the honey'...

hmale 10-30-2002 05:45 PM

You mean "stepping in shit"?

LOL
Cheers!

mfpmax 10-30-2002 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by g.l.amour
u americans have "fallen with your asses in the butter" as ppl would say in belgium. (don't feel offended , ;-) just means u r really lucky ppl). i wouldn't dream of getting all that stuff from normal web/shops in belgium/europe...

keep us posted dude

Yeah...but the things we lack...are the things everyone else has :(

I want scrap yards like they have in the UK :(

hmale 10-31-2002 04:33 PM

Update: Mobo
 
The motherboard I will be using is built around Intel's new 845PE chipset which offers support for DDR333. There aren't many mobos available yet for this chipset, but I came across a "motherboard shootout" over at www.anandtech.com and came across a motherboard that would ultimately be the one I chose for this project.

Here is a blurb from Anand's site:
"As far as overclocking was concerned, the Albatron PX845PEV Pro ended up doing a fantastic job...we were able to hit 166MHz FSB (this will be the next speed grade Intel hits once Prescott goes online in 2003). This is close to a 600MHz overclock...all on default core voltage...this is quite the feat...the overclocking success doesn't stop there either...Intel officially claims that the 845PE chipset is validated for no higher than DDR333 operation, however we were able to reach as high as 439MHz on default VDIMM...want a high-performing 845PE motherboard, look no further than the Albatron PX845PEV Pro"

Well, here it is...the Albatron PX845PE Pro:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...onpev_pic2.jpg

http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...onpev_pic9.jpg

The Albatron board coupled with a 2.4G P4 and a stick of Corsair XMS3200 should lay down the foundation for a potentially high overclock.
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...npev_pic10.jpg

That's it for today...Cheers!

hmale 11-18-2002 11:00 PM

Update
 
I am starting to receive some of the additional products, I will be using to bring this project to completion.

Here is a picture of the package I received from Sidewinder Computers:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...isc2/swsup.jpg

The PSU is manufactured by Samlex under the Meanwell brand. It is the S-320-12 model. 320 Watts/12 Volts/25 Amps
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...t/PSU/psu2.jpg
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...t/PSU/psu1.jpg
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...t/PSU/psu3.jpg

I received some dielectric greese which will be used to prevent condensation within and around the Ziff Socket area. The obligatory round cable is shown here also:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...cabcorlube.jpg

The fan you see here measures 40 mm X 25 mm. It is manufactured by Evercool and is a highly rated fan for its size, spinning at 9000 rpm. The fan will be used to cool the Albatron's chipset. As a side note, my wife thinks the grille is cute...sigh.
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New.../chipfan9k.jpg

And speaking of the chipset, Case-Mod.com sent me a Zalman chipset cooler:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...sc2/cmzal2.jpg

Also from Case-Mod, is 15' of ClearFlex 60 tubing.
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...sc2/cmtube.jpg

That's it for today.

Oh, BTW, I am expecting a package from Swiftech tomorrow...

Cheers!

mfpmax 11-18-2002 11:26 PM

I've got those round cables.

One day I may get that power supply...

FRAGN'STIEN 11-18-2002 11:35 PM

Nice hmale. Glad to see your back at it. What did you do with that Lytron modular cooler you won on ebay?:D

hmale 11-18-2002 11:43 PM

I will be receiving that Lytron modular system on Thursday.

I will modify it by replacing its radiator with a heater core (7.375" X 7.25") and a 115V Comair-Rotron Falcon fan (rated at 300 CFM) I have lying around. I also intend to make it 1/2" throughout.

After that I will be using it as part of a test bed I am working on.

Who needs an Exos by Koolance when you have ebay?

Cheers!

FRAGN'STIEN 11-19-2002 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hmale




Who needs an Exos by Koolance...?

Cheers!

Heh. I didn't even think that was an option:evilaugh: :D

hmale 11-21-2002 08:29 AM

Well, it finally arrived; the Swiftech 478-UHT block. This block is designed to water-cool a P4 processor using 1/2" barbed fittings.

Additional cooling is provided through the use of a 226 Watt TEC

Here is the package I received from Xtekwerkz,
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...block_pic2.jpg

This is a top view of the unassembled block:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...block_pic4.jpg

Notice the fine workmanship as evidenced by the smooth surface of the cold plate in this bottom view:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...block_pic5.jpg

Also note, in the picture above, the 8 screws that are used to sandwich the TEC between the cold plate and the actual block. For TECs to operate properly sufficient clamping pressure must be applied.

In the following picture, you have a clear view of the TEC and the cold plate/block sandwich.
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...block_pic6.jpg

This picture shows the block with the 1/2" barbs attached:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...block_pic7.jpg

The following picture shows the mounting mechanism used for P4 boards:
http://www.extrememhz.com/images/New...block_pic8.jpg


It looks like we now have all the basic components that will be used in this project. We should be ready to put a bow around this one...after a few modifications of course!

That's it for now...Cheers!


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