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PetDMC 11-17-2002 09:21 AM

blower worth it?
 
i was thinking of putting a blower on my BMW Heatercore, i found one the fits perfectly on it.

it's 460 cfm @ max but the thing cost 34 USD and the shipping it $40 :mad: that's 77.xx total, but since i'm in Canada it's $120 and the UPS turds want also $30-$40.

so the question is, should i buy it or just go with 6 92mm (3 on each side of the core)

MadDogMe 11-17-2002 09:42 AM

I'd use 2 120mm fans with a shroud, all the 92mm I know of have poor (comparitivly) CFM's (40-50) plus you'll get less noise with two 120's :) . I use 2x 92mm 47CFM panaflos at the moment, but I'll relagate them to 7V PSU as soon as my 120 arrive :) . you also get a 'harmonic resonance' discord with multiple fans together at max speed, run them slower (7V or fanbus) to avoid this...

PS, push/pull fan setups yeild very little (like 1DegC) over normal pull/suck setups, worth the noise?...

PetDMC 11-17-2002 09:53 AM

for me to shroud on 2 120mm i'd have to V shape the shroud, cuz i do have 2 comair rotrons but they are LOUD @ max

and i would rather get a blower

MadDogMe 11-17-2002 10:18 AM

Have you considered 2x175mm fans?(AC or DC), if you don't want to mess with a shroud,(there's nothing wrong with making the sides 'funnel' shaped though), or even considered a new heatercore with a better fit?, I doubt the BMW one is copper?...

That seems a lot of £$% for a blower that's all :shrug: ...

I wish PC/Cooling/OverClocking shops would start selling 175mm(172?) fans. alot of HC's are perfect sized for them, whereas 120's just dont quite fit without sharp angled / * \ sides...

UnloadeD 11-17-2002 10:38 AM

I'm looking at getting one of these fans:
https://www.jameco.com/cgi-bin/ncomm...s=503;533;798;
Its 24v but spec sheet says it'll run on 12v-28v
http://www.nmbtc.com/products/fans/dc6820pl.html

PetDMC 11-17-2002 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnloadeD
I'm looking at getting one of these fans:
https://www.jameco.com/cgi-bin/ncomm...s=503;533;798;
Its 24v but spec sheet says it'll run on 12v-28v
http://www.nmbtc.com/products/fans/dc6820pl.html

i have one of those, but it's 300 CFM and it's going on the side of my case :drool:

PetDMC 11-17-2002 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MadDogMe
Have you considered 2x175mm fans?(AC or DC), if you don't want to mess with a shroud,(there's nothing wrong with making the sides 'funnel' shaped though), or even considered a new heatercore with a better fit?, I doubt the BMW one is copper?...

That seems a lot of £$% for a blower that's all :shrug: ...

I wish PC/Cooling/OverClocking shops would start selling 175mm(172?) fans. alot of HC's are perfect sized for them, whereas 120's just dont quite fit without sharp angled / * \ sides...

the HC is copper :cool: but it's kinda small, but i got it cheap, $20CDN

i did what a bigger one but it was $50+

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^ thats what the HC looks like (kinda of :D)

PetDMC 11-21-2002 03:02 PM

oh well, i caved

i bought the blower

now which side of the core should i put it on? the side with the connectors or the side with out?

airspirit 11-21-2002 05:47 PM

Doesn't matter. Just make sure the fan is pulling with some shroud space inbetween the core and the fan.

PetDMC 11-21-2002 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by airspirit
Doesn't matter. Just make sure the fan is pulling with some shroud space inbetween the core and the fan.
there's a reason they call them blower fans :D

i'm gonna put a gaskit between the blower and the core

click for pic

BTW my HC has a housing for it :cool: (BMW HC are the bomb) once i get the blower i'll try and get some pics up :cool:

airspirit 11-21-2002 06:17 PM

Oops, I should have caught that. Sorry. I was thinking 120mm/92mm fans still. Ignore me.

PetDMC 11-21-2002 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by airspirit
Oops, I should have caught that. Sorry. I was thinking 120mm/92mm fans still. Ignore me.
it's all good man

got a great deal on the blower too
$33.15 USD

linky scroll down to the AO Smith blowers

airspirit 11-22-2002 10:02 AM

That looks like it'll be one loud sumb!tch. I wouldn't be suprised if that was rated at 58-59 dB, but then you'll be hard pressed to find a blower that doesn't exceed 50 dB.

PetDMC 12-11-2002 10:23 AM

*~Update~*
 
w00t!!!!

i got the blower today, and damn this thing rocks, its a beast!

this thing is industral

i haven't hooked it up yet but i turned it with my hand and it moves lotsa air, even if its 2-6rpm
felt like 20-40CFM

if i remember corectly the pressure it like 60-80 or something

the only thing that sux is that the flange is about an 1" too small, so i guess i have to shroud for it

bigben2k 12-11-2002 10:39 AM

That's great!

Do you have any dimensions?
What was the total, with shipping?
If / how do you plan to reduce the speed/noise?

PetDMC 12-11-2002 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigben2k
That's great!

Do you have any dimensions?
What was the total, with shipping?
If / how do you plan to reduce the speed/noise?

its a big black mofo

<--------------> 20.5cm
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i'll try and get a pic of it tomorrow

the blower itself was $34USD i think and shipping was $36USD
it weights 11lbs

i'm still working on the controller

the motor specs:
A.O. Smith
1/20HP, 1PH, 115V, 60Hz, 2.45A
1550 RPM, CWLE, TP, INS, CL "B", SPEED TWO

bigben2k 12-11-2002 03:23 PM

That's about 8 by 10 inches:eek:

http://www.electricmotorwarehouse.com/BO1460.gif

PetDMC 12-11-2002 03:30 PM

yup, nicely fits my HC, just a inch or so off

still have to make a shroud :(

oh and about the speed, since it two speed it should be fine

i'm gonna test it tomorrow on low and high :cool:

BTW the pic is kinda misleading, its not as long

lukasz70 12-12-2002 11:38 AM

BMW HC for 20Cdn:drool:

where do i get one!!!

and for what model/make/year is HC for

PetDMC 12-12-2002 03:42 PM

mahahahaha, i wired up the beast today and damn it blows a crap load of air, i couldn't keep my eyes open (it blew in me face)

and its only around 40db, major 0wnage :D :cool:

Quote:

Originally posted by lukasz70
BMW HC for 20Cdn:drool:

where do i get one!!!

and for what model/make/year is HC for

www.ebay.ca

the guy said it was 2002, he gave me a deal since we both a Polish :p

i think he wanted like 35 or something, thats all i know

BTW it a single pass HC, the water goes in one end and out the other in------------>out

PS: i'm getting a digital camera for christmas, so lotsa pics to come;)

lukasz70 12-12-2002 10:55 PM

Quote:

we both a Polish
noto mosze jeszcze jeden ma,

:( cant write for crap anymore :cry: :p

PetDMC 12-14-2002 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lukasz70
noto mosze jeszcze jeden ma,

:( cant write for crap anymore :cry: :p

no worries man, i can't even write:eek:

anyway, i did some more testing on the blower and i hooked up the second speed wire (since it's two speed :D ) and to my surprise, it runs about half the full speed

no need for a for a controller :cool:

this was a great deal for this blower, if you could use it i would so buy it in a heart beat


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