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Arcturius 12-06-2002 06:12 PM
1600+ AGOIA or 1900+ AGOGA or TBred?
 
Hello all,

I was just making up my Christmas wish list (yes, I'm a really bad procrastinator...) and I noticed that newegg.com has 1600+ AGOIAs for $55 and free shipping. That caught my eye, but does anyone think I might be better off with a 1900+ AGOGA for $89+FS or a 1700+ Retail TBred for $65+FS?

Note: this new processor will just be a toy; I'm not out to buy a 1600+ and OC it to 1900MHz b/c I need that much speed--this chip will be replacing my *disposable* Duron 750 in the test box. Said box *should* end up with a direct-die watercooling system in the very near future, so I'm not horribly worried about the recent issues with TBred cooling.
Oh, and the board is a Vmodded KR7A-133.


Any thoughts?

airspirit 12-06-2002 06:23 PM
TbredA 1800+. They clock better than the 1700s for just a couple bux more. With the similarity in price to the 1600+, why wouldn't you?

And who wants a 1900+ AGOGA anymore, anyway? Go for the better, cheaper, chip. Plus, it is factory unlocked for your OCing pleasure.

g.l.amour 12-06-2002 06:36 PM
my 1800+ agoia is doing worse than anyone's 1600's here. it is stable at 1761 at 1.98 vcore (u gotta love em epoxes for giving that kind of vcore without soldering)

Arcturius 12-06-2002 06:41 PM
Tbred 'A'? What is the difference between that and any other TBred? The model number newegg carries for that is AXDA1800DLT3C (OEM), $69+FS.

Are you sure they're all unlocked? (I was just starting to get good with the window repair kit... :p )

airspirit 12-07-2002 09:56 AM
TBredA are the first revision TBreds. TBredB are the second, starting with the 2400+. TBredA is the equivalent of the 2200+s with better steppings.

On some boards you still need to join the last L3 bridge, but all the L1 bridges are joined from the factory.

MadDogMe 12-08-2002 04:32 AM
A's were the first, 'poor' overclocking t~breds made, I would'nt bet on it being able to do 2gig if I were you anymore than an XP, my pally 1800+ AGOIA is only good for 1758 @ 1.75v~core, upping it to 1.85 makes no difference...

If you're not gonna o/c it get the t~bred, but if it starts adding up much more $%£'s than the 1600+ is it worth it to you?. 1600~AGOIA's were/are good chips...

Arcturius 12-08-2002 01:01 PM
Ok...I guess I'll need some more input... :D

Code:

          |For|Against|
+----------+---+-------+
|1600+AGOIA|  1|      1|
|1800+TBred|  1|      1|
|1900+AGOGA|  0|      1|
+----------+---+-------+
Mebbe I should have just made a poll....

bigben2k 12-09-2002 08:55 AM
You could always check the OC database.

zoson 12-09-2002 10:13 PM
see my post about this 1600+ i just got... 2100mhz.
-Zoson

Arcturius 12-10-2002 12:20 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by bigben2k
You could always check the OC database.
Please forgive my ignorance, but where is this fabled OC database?

bigben2k 12-10-2002 08:51 AM
OC's CPU database here!

airspirit 12-10-2002 12:40 PM
TBredB 1800+ chips will be out next month. Get one of those puppies, if you can wait. They start shipping from Dresden tomorrow.

Wouldn't you like a $75 processor that can get over 2200 Mhz?

MadDogMe 12-11-2002 04:15 AM
Quote:
TBredB 1800+ chips will be out next month. Get one of those puppies, if you can wait. They start shipping from Dresden tomorrow.
Are they gonna be the 'revision b' cores?, cause it's the 'a' cores that put me off the lower range(under 2400) T~breds...

pHaestus 12-11-2002 08:03 AM
1600+ AGOIA and newer should be reasonably able to run at 1900MHz if you have GOOD cooling and voltage. Zoson has had even better luck. TBredAs are probably in the same range (1900-2000) but run much hotter.

I have an AGOIA with water at 1900MHz, and a AIRGA TBred (2200+) at 2000. The AGOIA is right at its limit, however.

UnloadeD 12-11-2002 08:23 AM
I got one of those 1600+ AGOIA's coming from newegg this week. Can't wait to mess around with it 8)

airspirit 12-11-2002 12:38 PM
TBredB = revision b. These are the good ones. They will start at 1700+ from the looks of it. Shipping started today!


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