uilizing ground temps
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the gournd stays around 56 or so degrees fariegnhieght year round at depths of 2 or so feet around here, in oregon.
So, I wonder if burying copper pipe aout 1.5 feet down in a winding pattern, would give good temperatures, siliently... r, would a multiple-channel parrallel setup be better? Also, in a one pump setup, what pump should I use? in a two pump, I plan to use my Eheim, and also to use a very powerful one to push water through the pipes, which then will be pumped into a resivore. see the pic I attached, it shows a winding two pump system |
not sure about this in oregon, but i think u might have to go deeper. u have to worry about the perma frost layer, winter times(anything down to 3 feet) not sure but i think i am... ive seen sum ppl go down to 6 feet deep and then have thier water container. if u only went down to 2 feet deep u have to worry about the lines freezing with the water. if i kan find the article, ill post the url for ya.
other wise it is a gud idea... im goin to see if i can do this where i live, just have to figure what type of supplies i need first. |
all I know is, we left a pipe under 6 inches of soil this winter when it froze, and it didn't break
in this part of oregon is rarly gets to freezing and there isn't permafrost here lol |
okay my bad on the perma frost thing, its bloody new years drinking... anyways there still is a frost layer, that u have to watch out for, maybe... all iknow is the deeper u go the less increase and decrease of temps u will get. it will stay at a certain temp when u go deeper into the ground. where as if its only a foot deep u will get hotter temps durin the day and cooler in the evenin.
and happy new year to anyone who reads this post :) im goin to pass out now! |
Nick C: do a search in these forums for posts made by 'BladeRunner'.
And take a look at his site: http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk He's done that already :) You'll find lots of info there and in these forums. |
thanxs guys
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Yeah but Blade had ground water too as I recall. What I want to know is if that would work here in Tucson. Go a few feet down and the sand is quite cool - even when its a 120F outside.
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As long as the soil is cold enough all year long, there's no problem. BR has buried his tank in dirt BTW, not water. Just make sure you've got a thermally conductive tank...
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i sent a link to overclockers about a year ago with a guy that did this with a maze2, ehiem 1250, and a 50 gallon tank. He said in the article that he needed to put it 6 feet down for a constant 11c all year. Check www.overclockers.com for a link. After reading the article i thought about drilling a whole in the basement wall for a long time ;D wife wouldn't let me
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another good 'ol oregonian, what part of oregon? I live in Tigard, near portland or tualatin...
I just had the experience of helping fix a pipe break from the water box to the house (or at least helped dig/fill in the holes). They put your water main pipes down about 3-4 feet, at the most. Heck, we have water pipes running under our house, that have never frozen, and they are completely exposed to the cold/heat of the season! |
A parellel setup should give you better flowrate through your system. But whatever you do, be careful cause there's a giant rat living under your house and it might have rabies!
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i saw a guy that went overboard, he watercooled everything includeing his psu, but he burryied a resuvior of a coupple gallons eight feet deep in the ground, but he had a rad in his comp, just basicly chilled water. I forgot where the pics are at... but it has it all. He even dug it with a back hoe.
[edit] sorry i didnt read that guys post, http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk/ saw it somewhere on there [/edit] [edit2] http://www.dwpg.com/content.php?cont...77&orgartid=57 [/edit2] |
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heh, I live down by roseburg... I'm the only WC/OCer in the whole county!!
anyway, I found a big, copper radiator I'd use if I did this and I think I might try it! |
If you bury a reservoir it will be exposed to about whatever the average yearly temerature is in your area. That is what I remember from geology in college.
Brian W |
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