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zar210 05-10-2003 12:23 AM

Deign
 
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What are you sharp people think of this deign?
It constucted but not tested (waiting for stuff to arrive),

zar210 05-10-2003 12:25 AM

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The consruction in real life!

LiquidRulez 05-10-2003 01:10 AM

I think after you put it on, you'll realize that you should have given it more thought

tippey 05-10-2003 02:26 AM

I was thinking of something similar using plumbing parts.
I suggest extending the inlet with a copper tube or something so that it is closer to the baseplate.

MadDogMe 05-10-2003 03:42 AM

As above, else the water won't reach down to the CPU area...

Axly 05-10-2003 03:59 AM

uhmm.. isn't the 22 mm tube pretty close to the plate? i think this could be ok. Nice to see more people doing blocks like these (bb2k's Radius inspired)

Personally i'm also pretty interested in the looks of the block, and well... it doesn't look very pretty ;)

tippey 05-10-2003 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by Axly
uhmm.. isn't the 22 mm tube pretty close to the plate? i think this could be ok.
your right m8 on a second look I just interpreted drawing wrong:D

MadDogMe 05-10-2003 04:28 AM

Same here, I thought it was the tube thickness, not another tube inside, in that case 22mm is too wide IMO. How about 13mm while incorporating a jet into the 'innertube'? :) ...

PS, I would'nt of put restrictive barbs onto it though. I'd have used 13mm (inner diametre) copper pipe in conjunction with 13mm (inner diametre) silicon tubing...

The outlet is in a good position to run a northbridge block in series as well...


PPS, with regards to the size: Is this block for a Pentium4 CPU?...

zar210 05-10-2003 12:31 PM

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Thanks for the input! Working in a idustry that use alot of copper gives me much material of experementing with blocks, so a change of tactics (with the design) is not much of a cost for me (i take trashed pieces, im not a thief).
My thought was to put as much water as possible at a high flow rate thru the block. If i understand MaDogMe, the 22mm tube can be a problem to get the flow to aggressivly attack the bottomplate. I think the silverplating will have a advantage (over plain copper) for spreading the heat around the whole bottomplate.
I know it looks like a bastard, but who cares?
Does anyone have a similar project? Please send some pictures!

GTA 05-10-2003 06:00 PM

I think it looks like a fairly effective design, covers all the main points of an effective block.

It could be optimised no doubt, but as a concept, i don't see any serious flaws.

I'd include a jet if I were you, and move the inlet pipe slightly further from the base. You may see a little backpressure from that block as it is.

Run some tests, if possible against another standard block, and let us know the results.

Keep up the effort :)

MadDogMe 05-11-2003 06:58 AM

I don't think the silver plating will make any noticable difference. It's such a thin layer, also silver is'nt that much better than copper :shrug: ...

You got it right about the water 'aggressivly attacking' the baseplate. It can make a big difference as Cathar has shown us with White Water...

How thin is the baseplate overall?, and how thin is it from the bottom of the dimples?. It's a good easily workable design though for sure ;) . Kudos! :cool: ...

PS. Is the notch at the bottom of the inner (22mm) tube to try and balance the flow?. I've been trying to find a good outlet design for a 'radial' waterpath. The only sure fire way is to have the outlet at the top and have the inlet where the outlet is now. It'd have to do a 90deg bend though which is bad for flow :shrug: ...

zar210 05-15-2003 07:40 AM

Well! Now its tested and reached only 217*11.5 on a 2800+ Barton and ABIT NF7-S v2.0. :rolleyes:

MadDogMe 05-15-2003 07:42 AM

What did you get with your previous cooling?(if any). What temps are you getting with them both?...

Is that Barton a 333 or 400FSB model?...

zar210 05-15-2003 09:24 AM

Acctuly i have one koolance system with a cpu-200S cooler, 2600+ @2438 (195x12.5) 1.9v on a A7n8xD v1.04 36-40C.
The new system:
NF7-S v2.0
Barton 2800+ 333 @2497 (11.5*217)
Corsair TwinX512 3200
45-50C with no stability issues??

I think the temperatures are a bit high, thinking of making my fans work more efficient thru the (black ice) radiator.

MadDogMe 05-16-2003 03:22 AM

You know that the NF7S (rev2.0) gives much higher temp readings than most any other mobo?...

zar210 05-16-2003 04:29 AM

Updated bios and got 10c lower temps!

MadDogMe 05-16-2003 04:32 AM

The easiest performance optimisation ever!! :D . Which BIOS revision is that? I am still running with the 'shipping' BIOS...

zar210 05-16-2003 08:43 AM

Quote:

Beta BIOS release 14 beta 1 for NF7-S/NF7 v2.0

Release information:

[ENGLISH]

0. Please use AWDFLASH 8.23D or later to update NF7 series BIOS. With
incorrect AWDFLASH version, the GUID will be erased, and leads to
IEEE1394 peer to peer function failed. AWDFLASH 8.23K is included in
this BIOS package.
1. Fixed CPU temperature too high issue.
2. Raised highest CPU FSB up to 300 MHz for "user define mode" in SoftMenu.
3. Fixed SATA RAID-0 data corruption issue by adding a new option "EXT-P2P's
Discard Time" in "integrated Peripherals". The default setting is "30 us"
; which is recommended by NVidia. In case the problem is still there, try
"1 ms" please.
4. Changed DDR400 DRAM timing according to NVidia's recommendation.
5. Updated BPL to v3.01 according to NVidia's recommendation.
6. BIOS Compile Date: 5/14/2003.

http://fae.abit.com.tw/download/beta/nf7/

msv 05-16-2003 08:49 AM

Yep, impressing improvement. :p

Not to disencourage a kinsman (vive la Suede!), but isn´t Your design basically a higher cap-design? Central inlet, outlet somewhere else in the cap. The effectiveness should be dominated by the pattern of holes/dimples/whatever in the baseplate. What pattern do You use right now? Square, hexagonal? Conical dimples, as in front end of drill, right?
Doesn´t Swiftechs blocks use a derivate of the cap-design?
regards
Mikael S.


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