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NiKnight 07-17-2003 09:57 AM

White Water
 
How much of a diffrence in temps am i going to get with this block against, say a maze 3 or 4. Im wondering if its really worth almost twice the price of the later.

nOv1c3 07-17-2003 10:05 AM

I heard any where from 1 to 4 C :/


I think all the top blocks are close to one another and in the temp range we are running with water i,m not convince 1 to 4 C is going to help you OC a cpu anymore :)

NiKnight 07-17-2003 10:10 AM

Yea I agree, i think the money would be better spent on a bigger rad or something to that nature. Looks like ill be going with the maze 4.

Skeptic 07-17-2003 10:17 AM

Did you read any of the 5 pages on the Maze 4 review?

I am guessing not if you are still considering buying the Maze 4. Read the posts and then make a decision, but in everyone's tests so far, the Maze 4 is worse than the Maze 3.

nikhsub1 07-17-2003 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nOv1c3
I heard any where from 1 to 4 C :/


NO. More like 4-6C.

nOv1c3 07-17-2003 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nikhsub1
NO. More like 4-6C.

NO .I dont think its that much

bigben2k 07-17-2003 11:30 AM

It really depends on the power coming from the CPU, but 4 to 6 is a good estimate.

NiKnight 07-17-2003 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nikhsub1
NO. More like 4-6C.
What kind of temps are you getting. Havnt seen many p4's on water.

nikhsub1 07-17-2003 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nOv1c3
NO .I dont think its that much
Think about it all you want but it won't make it so.

NiKnight 07-17-2003 12:40 PM

What kind of temps are you getting. Havnt seen many p4's on water.

??

nikhsub1 07-17-2003 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NiKnight
What kind of temps are you getting. Havnt seen many p4's on water.

??

Well, there are lots of P4's on water nowadays, especially with everyone defecting the the 800Mhz FSB goodness. My temps (as do everyones) really depend on ambient temps. Plus, The Abit IC7 reads a bit high, or so everyone says. My temps are right around 15-16C above ambient temps. Right this moment it is Africa hot and humid here is Los Angeles, ambient in this room is 33C (just walked in and turned the AC on :D ) and my load temps is 48C. Now with a more reasonable ambient, say 25C my load temp is around 39-40C or so. Keep in mind this is a P4 at 1.675V running at 3.6Ghz.

Althornin 07-17-2003 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nOv1c3
I heard any where from 1 to 4 C :/


I think all the top blocks are close to one another and in the temp range we are running with water i,m not convince 1 to 4 C is going to help you OC a cpu anymore :)

you heard wrong, and you think wrong too.

nOv1c3 07-17-2003 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Althornin
you heard wrong, and you think wrong too.
Not at all :)

Skeptic 07-17-2003 09:24 PM

Stop the freaking pissing contest already with the one-liners, grow up, and answer the question with some facts.

All you are doing is posting meaningless drivel. Provide some info please.

NiKnight 07-17-2003 09:40 PM

How about you all just stop arguing about something like that. A forum is to gather ideas from more than one person, not for just flaming someone for posting thier oppinion. Just let people have there own oppinions.

bigben2k 07-18-2003 07:28 AM

Ok.

http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/

Now the best block, which is WW, is rated at 0.19 C/W @ 1gpm.

The block that resembles the Maze3 the most, would have to be the Swiftech5000, and I'm being really generous here! It's rated at 0.23 C/W.

So for an 80 Watt source:
1- 80 * 0.19 = 15.2 degrees

2- 80 * 0.23 = 18.4 degrees

So we've got a 3 deg C difference.

To be more fair, I'll include the calcs for the Tsunami, which most of us know, performs better than a Maze3.

3- 80 * 0.25 = 20 deg, for a difference of 5 degrees.


These figures are for the block only, with a flow rate of 1 gpm, and a fully running, and a bit overclocked CPU, emitting 80 Watts.

nOv1c3 07-18-2003 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skeptic
Stop the freaking pissing contest already with the one-liners, grow up, and answer the question with some facts.

All you are doing is posting meaningless drivel. Provide some info please.


who the f#ck you talking to ?? You Little Bitch :/



All the info you need is all over the net look it up ...

Skeptic 07-18-2003 05:19 PM

Great response. A real class act.

Re-read the thread, and maybe you will figure it out on your own if you can ever see past your little ego.

Althornin 07-18-2003 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nOv1c3
who the f#ck you talking to ?? You Little Bitch :/



All the info you need is all over the net look it up ...

Ummmm..
BB2K just posted the evidence he asked for.
I am quite sure my one liner post to you was part of the problem, not part of the solution, and its my bad that i was too lazy to go get the hard data like ben did.
But, now that its posted, the FACTS are known, and you are shown to be wrong.

I hardly feel callng names is acceptable though, and i hope that now that you are confronted with evidence, you'll realize that you are in fact incorrect.

If you read enough threads on the subject, you'll also find that people who switched to a WW found (often) a small but noticeable OC gain as well.


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