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Cathar 03-25-2004 06:16 AM

MadShrimps Review the CoolCases CF-1 block
 
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=157

Interesting commentary...

pauldenton 03-25-2004 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cathar

eek Cathar - your turbulence has stagnated! ;)

jaydee 03-25-2004 09:14 AM

If your reading this Liquid3D, you got a hell of a lot of work to do before you put these so called reviews on the net. Definatly have a lot more research to do in the history of water blocks and how to test them to get usefull results. Also the ideal spot for a test bench is not on the floor by your window.

Inovative? I am not even going to get started on that one.

jmke 03-25-2004 09:39 AM

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Cathar 03-25-2004 05:44 PM

I just wasn't sure that I understood where the Cascade references came from. The block wasn't compared against a Cascade, so how can any statements/theories be put forward as to why the CF-1 will be superior? Isn't that all just conjecture? If it's just conjecture, then what is it doing in a review that's meant to be dealing with facts?

Liquid3D 05-10-2004 05:35 PM

I agree my reviewing techniques have a long way to go. My references to the Cascade are compliment, as it's considered the standard by which most others are judged. Objectivity is almost impossible to acheive, as we are subjective by nature. Just as you may be unconsciously biased towards Stew, I never purported to performing the review under laboratory conditions. So long as I describe the envrionmental conditions, which I'm testing under then I'm not misleading anyone. My comparisons's between the Casacde design and the CF1 design are hypothetical, and therefore by definition conjecture.

Often Reviewer's go into a review with bias, and rely on the data to prove or disprove any conjectture. But what seperates sterility, from an engaging read is often the reviewer's opinion.

In so far as the hardware being on the floor, the height of the test bench is about as relative as the difference in ambeint temperature between one laboratory to the next.

Thank you for the constructive criticsm. I've been writing manufacturers in attempt to find the proper test hardware. I would be very grateful for any donations, or further suggestions. However, so long as this is a free country, I'm going to continue to write.

jmke 05-10-2004 05:42 PM

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AngryAlpaca 05-10-2004 06:01 PM

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Objectivity is almost impossible to acheive, as we are subjective by nature. Just as you may be unconsciously biased towards Stew, I never purported to performing the review under laboratory conditions.
It's easy to get an unbiased review, and if you'd put the same effort into making a decent test bed as you do writing poor quality reviews, you could be putting out some high quality stuff by now. Get a decent temperature sensor to start. In that review you used a thermistor that YOU tested at +/-2C. It also didn't have markings between the numbers, so you made estimates, and those could've been wrong by a fairly long shot. You also compared it to nothing. You may have done multiple mounts, but I cannot tell for sure. Where was the thermistor?

pHaestus 05-10-2004 06:01 PM

Why would you guys want to dig up this old thread? Advice? Avoid testing wbs :)

Joe 05-11-2004 03:24 PM

well since they are still posting in here, might as well voice my .02$

Since you guys failed to remove joe@procooling.com from your spam list for your articles I have added that source address to the spam blacklist on the server. or spa[m] as it may be.

BillA 05-11-2004 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe
well since they are still posting in here, might as well voice my .02$

Since you guys failed to remove joe@procooling.com from your spam list for your articles I have added that source address to the spam blacklist on the server. or spa[m] as it may be.

aw Joe, don't ya know that a dose of spam keeps your fur shiny ?
does so for my cat anyway

jmke 05-11-2004 04:01 PM

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killernoodle 05-11-2004 04:07 PM

Hey guys, lets stop the bickering... it gets everyone nowhere.

jmke 05-11-2004 04:14 PM

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Joe 05-11-2004 05:01 PM

Umm No, I only blacklisted sites that I recieved email from after I asked to be removed. I hunted to find the email but I did delete it since I black listed the email source domain. I can open it again for you guys if your sure I am not on the list anymore. Theres a good few sites that ignored the email's asking for spam to stop so I have just taken matters into my own hands. I just have had enough of every fly by night website slamming my mailbox with a few hundred things I dont care about.

Public forum or not, its still my forum :p hehe

jmke 05-11-2004 06:05 PM

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MadHacker 05-11-2004 06:12 PM

I get lots of spam... my network administrator doesn't know how to set up a spam filter...
anywyas sometime i get the chance to remove myself from the spamer's mailing list...
but anytime i do it states it will take 24-48 hours to update the database...
Joe.. did you wait that long before putting him on your spam list...
jmke does your site state that it will take 24-48 hours to update said mailing list?

I aggree with killernoodle... stop bickering...
I like to think we are adults here...
but sometimes I wonder...

as for jmke's review...
one sugestion .. only list facts...
don't assume.. when you assume you make an ass out of you and ......

my 2ยข

jmke 05-11-2004 06:14 PM

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Joe 05-11-2004 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jmke
I removed you directly from the list after you asked me by email; that's all I can say.
don't like being called a "spammer", especially when it is not the case since I removed your email address directly after your first email asking to be removed... :/

Funny I never remember being asked to have my email added to your list in the first place :) (thats what News@ emails are for).

MadHacker 05-11-2004 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jmke
my review? ;)
It's Liquid3D's :-)

shows how much I pay attention to who writes what when it isn't an accredited review...
what makes it accrdited?
when the messagboard here doesn't tare the review to shreds... but we learn from our mistakes...
hopefully Liquid3D's next review will be better...

Joe 05-11-2004 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MadHacker
Joe.. did you wait that long before putting him on your spam list...

I wait until I recieve an email after the request was sent. Its pretty much an automated process for the most part.

pHaestus 05-11-2004 06:37 PM

haha you got owned Joe

Joe 05-11-2004 06:44 PM

Bitch, go back in your hole and stay there! :p hehe

BillA 05-11-2004 06:48 PM

goddamn
full moon tonight ?

pHaestus 05-11-2004 07:06 PM

must be. The interesting tidbit I learned from this thread is "Procooling has a news@ account"


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