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JokerCPoC 06-20-2004 01:55 PM

Swamp Cooler cooled water cooling
 
Swamp Cooler cooled water cooling, I mean the water from one of those coolers is almost always COLD and Since Water is part of My Rent(this is a Mobile Home in the Desert I might add) , along with Trash and Sewage, I thought this could cool down a couple of PCs or so, So whether It would be Directly or Indirectly(By use of a heat exchanger) I have no Idea, But It is an idea.

Jabo 06-21-2004 04:03 AM

If you live in a desert dig a 9' hole in the ground (or as deepd as safe) and put a collection of cheap car radiators from your local car dump in there (in parallel).
The idea is to have it working as thermal storage.

Your evaporative cooling would surely add to your water bill, right?

JokerCPoC 06-21-2004 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jabo
If you live in a desert dig a 9' hole in the ground (or as deepd as safe) and put a collection of cheap car radiators from your local car dump in there (in parallel).
The idea is to have it working as thermal storage.

Your evaporative cooling would surely add to your water bill, right?

No, The Water is part of the Rent, As is Trash collection and Sewer service. I can't dig a 9' hole, Soil is sandy, Besides I'm disabled.

JoeKamel 06-21-2004 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zoom314
Swamp Cooler cooled water cooling, I mean the water from one of those coolers is almost always COLD and Since Water is part of My Rent(this is a Mobile Home in the Desert I might add) , along with Trash and Sewage, I thought this could cool down a couple of PCs or so, So whether It would be Directly or Indirectly(By use of a heat exchanger) I have no Idea, But It is an idea.

Will your landlord keep water included in your rent next year with the amount of H2O you're going to go through?

JokerCPoC 06-21-2004 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeKamel
Will your landlord keep water included in your rent next year with the amount of H2O you're going to go through?

It's a HOT Climate, Afterall We are talking Yermo California(It's between Barstow CA and LasVegas NV), It's late spring and the High Yesterday was 101F, It won't use much more than normal for around there I would think.

Jabo 06-21-2004 03:51 PM

In such a case evaporative cooling is your best choice man.

redleader 06-21-2004 05:37 PM

Drop a radiator into the evap and you've got very cool results. I wouldn't pump it directly through the system though, swamp cooolers tend to be nasty.

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Will your landlord keep water included in your rent next year with the amount of H2O you're going to go through?
Even if he runs the thing 24/7/365 for an entire year, its going to use much less then 200 gal/year (never mind that the evap won't really work during the winter or very hard at night). Thats like 3 or 4 showers or a bath or two. No one is going to notice the couple cents a month it adds to the bill. Which is why people use evap in the first place, its an order of magnitude cheaper then an actual AC unit.

Huckleberry 06-22-2004 01:29 PM

I'd suggest the following:

1) Don't pump your evap water through your system
2) use a regular water cooled setup and augment your cooling with the swamp pad
3) pull evap-cooled air through the evap pad and then through your radiator
4) don't let your swamp water sit - constantly plan on dumping a small amount to reduce mineral buildup
5) find a way of recirculating the swamp water to force it to saturate your evap pad - just like the house units. You may go cheap by simply using fresh water dripped onto the top of the pad and then dumping all overflow.
6) a small swamp cooler setup shouldn't use much water every day - I'd guesstimate less than 10 gal, even in your environment. A larger swamp for a house may use up to 60 gal per day - your limited usage would be much less.
7) see if you can find a way of dumping the "used" humidified air outside - humid air in your apartment will cause the air conditioning to work harder than it needs to

I've used a dual-stage swamp for a few years now. More efficient, yes, but best used in very dry environments only (like yours). My mother and father met in Mojave, btw.

funbun 06-22-2004 01:35 PM

Swamp cooling? What's that? any pics?

JokerCPoC 06-22-2004 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huckleberry
I'd suggest the following:

1) Don't pump your evap water through your system
2) use a regular water cooled setup and augment your cooling with the swamp pad
3) pull evap-cooled air through the evap pad and then through your radiator
4) don't let your swamp water sit - constantly plan on dumping a small amount to reduce mineral buildup
5) find a way of recirculating the swamp water to force it to saturate your evap pad - just like the house units. You may go cheap by simply using fresh water dripped onto the top of the pad and then dumping all overflow.
6) a small swamp cooler setup shouldn't use much water every day - I'd guesstimate less than 10 gal, even in your environment. A larger swamp for a house may use up to 60 gal per day - your limited usage would be much less.
7) see if you can find a way of dumping the "used" humidified air outside - humid air in your apartment will cause the air conditioning to work harder than it needs to

I've used a dual-stage swamp for a few years now. More efficient, yes, but best used in very dry environments only (like yours). My mother and father met in Mojave, btw.

Sorry, I don't have any AC, Just the Swamp Cooler and a Gas Fired wall heater, Or for those that don't know what the term Swamp Cooler means, It's just an Evaporative Cooler, Where I'm moving to (Yermo, CA, USA) the Humidity averages out to about 16% per day, Rainfall is near or about 4.00" per Year and Yeah thats really dry. Nothing like paying rent of course. And Yeah I was thinking of dumping the excess heat outside anyway in a process like the Swamp Cooler does, Since the cost of water is included in My rent of $400.00 per month along with Trash and Sewage of course.


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