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rogerdugans · 04-30-2004, 05:23 PM

I apologize for the digression from the original thread topic that I seem to have inadvertently started.

But I will make an attempt to explain the statement you quoted in its entirety:

"Will it do as well as a block with a c/w of .13? Not likely as long as all other system variables are unchanged"
Given what I have learned about water cooling, I would expect a waterblock that performs well at medium to high flow rates and has a c/w of .13 to provide lower cpu temps than a block that has a c/w of .17 when used in a system that maintains medium to high flow rates.

I don't think that is the portion of the statement that anybody has a problem with, however...although I could be wrong.

Qualifier to the above portion of the statement:
"....but even then I would have to say it IS possible."

I have read reports from users of small ID tube systems that work quite well with low flow water blocks and pumps that increasing flow rate made no difference or worsened temps. I also recall that some of the blocks mentioned in those posts by users have been tested/rated and have c/w ratings in the area of .25 or more.
And that some of those systems had been tested with blocks with lower c/w and still not gotten better results.
(I will have to see if I can find some of the old posts/reports.....it's been a while.)

I have NOT tested these results myself, and questioned them at the time: however, as I am NOT a scientist, nor a "know it all" type, I did NOT then say that they were full of it.
Nor will I now.

I will not say anything is impossible unless I would be willing to bet my life on it- unlikely, yes. Impossible, no.
I would be willing to bet money that a block with a lower c/w WILL perform better than a block with a higher c/w.....I don't see where I gave any other impression, either?

What I DID allow in that statement is the fact that I do NOT know everything.
Never have, never will.

And that, my friends is why I posted that statement.

I will see if I can find some links to the posts of people claiming better results in low-flow systems with low-flow pumps and blocks.

Edit- ate dinner and looked for some linkage- only one I can find so far is HERE.
There are some other links in there that go to German sites- testing was done there as well.

I do not make any claims that there testing is accurate, only that such posts and claims are/were enough to make me believe that many things are possible...no mater if I still find them unlikely.

04-30-2004, 05:23 PM	#53
rogerdugans Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: massachusetts Posts: 10	I apologize for the digression from the original thread topic that I seem to have inadvertently started. But I will make an attempt to explain the statement you quoted in its entirety: "Will it do as well as a block with a c/w of .13? Not likely as long as all other system variables are unchanged" Given what I have learned about water cooling, I would expect a waterblock that performs well at medium to high flow rates and has a c/w of .13 to provide lower cpu temps than a block that has a c/w of .17 when used in a system that maintains medium to high flow rates. I don't think that is the portion of the statement that anybody has a problem with, however...although I could be wrong. Qualifier to the above portion of the statement: "....but even then I would have to say it IS possible." I have read reports from users of small ID tube systems that work quite well with low flow water blocks and pumps that increasing flow rate made no difference or worsened temps. I also recall that some of the blocks mentioned in those posts by users have been tested/rated and have c/w ratings in the area of .25 or more. And that some of those systems had been tested with blocks with lower c/w and still not gotten better results. (I will have to see if I can find some of the old posts/reports.....it's been a while.) I have NOT tested these results myself, and questioned them at the time: however, as I am NOT a scientist, nor a "know it all" type, I did NOT then say that they were full of it. Nor will I now. I will not say anything is impossible unless I would be willing to bet my life on it- unlikely, yes. Impossible, no. I would be willing to bet money that a block with a lower c/w WILL perform better than a block with a higher c/w.....I don't see where I gave any other impression, either? What I DID allow in that statement is the fact that I do NOT know everything. Never have, never will. And that, my friends is why I posted that statement. I will see if I can find some links to the posts of people claiming better results in low-flow systems with low-flow pumps and blocks. Edit- ate dinner and looked for some linkage- only one I can find so far is HERE. There are some other links in there that go to German sites- testing was done there as well. I do not make any claims that there testing is accurate, only that such posts and claims are/were enough to make me believe that many things are possible...no mater if I still find them unlikely. Last edited by rogerdugans; 04-30-2004 at 06:45 PM.