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Etacovda · 06-11-2004, 03:15 AM

Arken - totally agree; the problem isnt neccarily with the substances.

"On your best day you could not be as diligent, compassonate, considerate & focused as a true believer"

I find that insulting - because I dont believe there is a god, I don't have a chance to be as good as one that does? That sir, is biggoted. I suggest you take the foot out of their "a$$'s" and put in your mouth.

Killernoodle : "The simple fact is that people like me will end up paying for people that live unhealthy lifestyles, whether we like it or not and that, my friend, is what is wrong with this country. Ideally, people should pay for their own medicare and have that part of the taxes removed. Medicare is too much of a socialist idea and penalizes the healthy people more than the unhealthy."

Honestly, this is full of inexperience. Or perhaps I'm not overly familiar with how it all works over there.
Fine, lets say tomorrow, through no fault of your own, you develop heart and liver problems, through a natural condition. The cost is 60,000 for transplants. You cant afford it. You die. Hows that justice for you? Well, its your own justice...

You're American, right? Thats the EXACT view that a lot of people outside of your country see of it - capitalism is just going too far in your country. Through no fault of all the people, but from people like you who think in that manner.

Because someone isnt healthy, they shouldnt have a chance to live their lives? Because someone isn't well off, they should die? I'll take a stab in the dark and say your parents are well off. I come from a poor family, and with your scheme health care, both my mother and father would be dead; some times, life isn't good to people, and no matter what they do, they can't change that. They shouldnt be punished.

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As far as legalisation goes, I'm against it. If you want to risk it, and do it, then fine, go ahead. Perhaps the punishments could be a bit on the softer side, but as it is, you're not going to stop anyone.

I believe that alcohol is a worse drug, along with tobacco. Much worse. Its blatently obvious how many problems stem from smoking and alcohol abuse; yet people still blame dope for the issues of society. Anyone thats actually been open enough to try it (yes, I have - not my cup of tea, but then, neither is drinking) will realise what kind of drug it is, and how it could effect certain people.

On a side note - what about advertising and society? should society be blamed for anorexia, obesity etc?

06-11-2004, 03:15 AM	#154
Etacovda Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dunedin NZ Posts: 735	Arken - totally agree; the problem isnt neccarily with the substances. "On your best day you could not be as diligent, compassonate, considerate & focused as a true believer" I find that insulting - because I dont believe there is a god, I don't have a chance to be as good as one that does? That sir, is biggoted. I suggest you take the foot out of their "a$$'s" and put in your mouth. Killernoodle : "The simple fact is that people like me will end up paying for people that live unhealthy lifestyles, whether we like it or not and that, my friend, is what is wrong with this country. Ideally, people should pay for their own medicare and have that part of the taxes removed. Medicare is too much of a socialist idea and penalizes the healthy people more than the unhealthy." Honestly, this is full of inexperience. Or perhaps I'm not overly familiar with how it all works over there. Fine, lets say tomorrow, through no fault of your own, you develop heart and liver problems, through a natural condition. The cost is 60,000 for transplants. You cant afford it. You die. Hows that justice for you? Well, its your own justice... You're American, right? Thats the EXACT view that a lot of people outside of your country see of it - capitalism is just going too far in your country. Through no fault of all the people, but from people like you who think in that manner. Because someone isnt healthy, they shouldnt have a chance to live their lives? Because someone isn't well off, they should die? I'll take a stab in the dark and say your parents are well off. I come from a poor family, and with your scheme health care, both my mother and father would be dead; some times, life isn't good to people, and no matter what they do, they can't change that. They shouldnt be punished. ---- As far as legalisation goes, I'm against it. If you want to risk it, and do it, then fine, go ahead. Perhaps the punishments could be a bit on the softer side, but as it is, you're not going to stop anyone. I believe that alcohol is a worse drug, along with tobacco. Much worse. Its blatently obvious how many problems stem from smoking and alcohol abuse; yet people still blame dope for the issues of society. Anyone thats actually been open enough to try it (yes, I have - not my cup of tea, but then, neither is drinking) will realise what kind of drug it is, and how it could effect certain people. On a side note - what about advertising and society? should society be blamed for anorexia, obesity etc? Last edited by Etacovda; 06-11-2004 at 03:27 AM.