[Fly]

Hi Fly,
Welcome to pro forums!
I'll certainly admit that the criticism of your review was "over the top" as far as bad language.
However, when I was first reading this thread and followed the URL to your review, I got as far as
The included pump is a 5 Watt Qmax300, providing a throughput of 300l/h."
and stopped there, having made the assumption that the author (guess that was you) was not watercooling-literate.
Of course, this was based on yet another assumption - that you had not actually measured water flow, but were quoting the pump manafacturer's zero-head claim - I jumped to this conclusion simply from 300l/h being a "round number" - apologies if I'm wrong on this one...

Folks on this forum come from a lot of different walks of life. Some of us work in a collegial environment (not necessarily academic, but that same give and take around technical reports). If you'd made the above comment on the forum one of those folks would have asked "did you measure that flow?". Others of us are from construction/contracting and have a tendency to shout "bullshit!" if they think a subcontractor's trying to pull the wool over their eyes - and use that same style here. (Yes, it makes me uncomfortable, too - but it's a very effective style in that it makes posters careful about their data - and their conclusions.)
I hope you won't take being the target personally (yes, I get to be the target once in a while, too)

On the positive side, there's an amazingly knowledgeable crew here. Phaestus is quite possibly the best water cooling tester currently publishing on the web. There are lots of reasons to stick around - hope you do.

Hi Bobkoure,

Thanks for the welcome. Measuring waterflow was far from the scope of the article for many reasons. For example; the pump is a fixed part of the unit so there are no options to choose a better one when purchasing it. Also, time constraints prevented me from obtaining all of the proper measuring equipment, although the likely buyer of this unit would gain nothing from knowing to the decimal point exactly how much water it can shift.

I acknowledge the sheer breadth of knowledge that are contained on these forums but I also am aware of the argumentative nature of message boards having moderated one for the last 3 years. Because of this i am not going to be negative about anything posted here unless it directly insults me. I'll just take anything useful on board and bear it in mind for the next article I write.


satanicoo:

I am sorry, but in this point i will not agree with you.
If they try to get a very good surface, and get it scratched because of the packaging, they shouldn't even waste the time to make it that good.

Its only a matter of packaging. Really.

Thermal paste should be minimised at all costs, since it has bad heat transfer properties.

It is poor packaging, that is exactly why I mentioned it. I know for a fact that the Zalman guys read my reviews so by highlighting the problem may contribute in solving it. I disagree, however, that it is a Major issue; I suppose you would have to see the scratches in person to judge for yourself.

Ok, so we assume that the user should go for the 250$+ Reserator instead of the SP-94?

If he is looking for complete silence, an entry to watercooling and something different then yes; you can't deny that the reserator looks good (although I do understand that looks are subjective)!

Instable? So, why buy it?

Unstable when you use it with Intel's Prescott core with no airflow. One of the testing conditions was a case with NO working fans. I currently have the Reserator on a 3.0c running at 3.3 at no higher than 45c running in complete silence.

Ok, i wasn't explicit. It just doesn't say nothing at all.

Most reviews have conclusions, I guess you must not read many.

"Base myself harder on the temperatures?"

That's exactly what I did. Did you even read past the first page?

"Get an external pump, check its performance at diferent flow rates, etc etc."

Why on earth would you spend all that money on a Reserator kit to hack it up and replace the pump? That is the whole point of the system; to allow those not blessed by water experience to get up and running with minimum effort.

Of course you could always say that this system isnt based on temperatures, it only needs to be stable un-overclocked, but in that case, a silent fan on the SP-94 would do it!

Good point, but then you have to add more fans to remove the hot air from the case.
Reserator 1 + silent PSU = Silence
SP-94 + quiet fan + 2/3 x quiet case fans or fanbus + quiet PSU = Reduced HSF performance and whoosh of air.

True!, Thats the top thing we are discusting! If it is on par with the SP-94, why buy it and not buy the SP-94?

See above.

Are you mad with what we say about your way to make reviews? Or with what we say about the reserator?

I'm not mad about either, I'm mad about how you hide behind the anonymity of a forum to throw dirt. There is both my e-mail, and a link to post comments in our forums. If you have a problem, let me know to my face.

Take it easy man. Your crap isn't that special, in fact it is just one amongst piles and piles of crap internet reviews.

That pearl of wisdom will allow me to sleep tonight, perhaps you should post the link to some of your reviews.


In summary, the Reserator is aimed at a certain market and I wrote the review with that in mind. You will know instantly from that review if the system is not for you. From your reaction in this thread I guess you guys found that out straight away.

I hold no grudges by the way, and would expect less aggressiveness if this was discussed over a beer.

Fly