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bobkoure · 06-22-2004, 06:48 AM

All issues of not having the ambient temp listed here either aside, and ignoring the "Sockel" and "Diode" readings (both wildly inaccurate, although, if they'd left the rest of the system undisturbed - meaning same pump, tubing, waterblock, motherboard, CPU and the waterblock was not dismounted/remounted, I'd take those numbers to mean the maxi was approximately the same as a BIP with a 6V fan - of unknown properties)

I'm puzzled by the case temps. Case is cooler with Maxi? Hmmm..., well maybe - so long as here are other fans exhausting the case.
This would indicate that the BIP is on an inlet (they didn't mention this either). So... why is the case warmer with a 12V fan on an inlet than a 6V one? If they were exhausting the system with a fan of approximately the same characteristics of the inlet one at 12V that would explain it - but means the system is not quiet.

Any idea what they mean by "Differenz"?

On the other hand, I've a little experience with BIPs and their numbers match my experience (going from an almost-silent at at 5V to full-on at 12V only makes a couple of degrees difference). I wouldn't try to overclock anything cooled with it, though.

And finally
AMD AthlonXP 2500+ @ 2,4GHz (209x11,5) 110 Watts of heat emission
110 Watts? The non-mobile (so higher power) 2500+ XPs are rated by AMD at a Max amperage of 41.4A (note this is for motherboard designers, so the actual max amps is less). To get to 110W, they'd need to be supplying 2.66V. Ya think?
I think they've got the hacked "uber" BIOS on that board, which allows you to twiddle the CPU voltage to your heart's content - but that setting is hidden from the "stock" BIOS because it doesn't do anything (there are other great reasons to use the Uber BIOS, but CPU voltage is not one of 'em).
There's also no mention of what they're doing to run the CPU at 100%. Do you think they actually are running the CPU at 100%? If not (and my guess on the voltage is right), they're actually cooling more like ~55W (or less).
FWIW, 55W also puts their BIP numbers into the ballpark I'd expect.

OK, that was fun

your turn to dissect the next one!

06-22-2004, 06:48 AM	#17
bobkoure Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA - Boston area Posts: 798	All issues of not having the ambient temp listed here either aside, and ignoring the "Sockel" and "Diode" readings (both wildly inaccurate, although, if they'd left the rest of the system undisturbed - meaning same pump, tubing, waterblock, motherboard, CPU and the waterblock was not dismounted/remounted, I'd take those numbers to mean the maxi was approximately the same as a BIP with a 6V fan - of unknown properties) I'm puzzled by the case temps. Case is cooler with Maxi? Hmmm..., well maybe - so long as here are other fans exhausting the case. This would indicate that the BIP is on an inlet (they didn't mention this either). So... why is the case warmer with a 12V fan on an inlet than a 6V one? If they were exhausting the system with a fan of approximately the same characteristics of the inlet one at 12V that would explain it - but means the system is not quiet. Any idea what they mean by "Differenz"? On the other hand, I've a little experience with BIPs and their numbers match my experience (going from an almost-silent at at 5V to full-on at 12V only makes a couple of degrees difference). I wouldn't try to overclock anything cooled with it, though. And finally AMD AthlonXP 2500+ @ 2,4GHz (209x11,5) 110 Watts of heat emission 110 Watts? The non-mobile (so higher power) 2500+ XPs are rated by AMD at a Max amperage of 41.4A (note this is for motherboard designers, so the actual max amps is less). To get to 110W, they'd need to be supplying 2.66V. Ya think? I think they've got the hacked "uber" BIOS on that board, which allows you to twiddle the CPU voltage to your heart's content - but that setting is hidden from the "stock" BIOS because it doesn't do anything (there are other great reasons to use the Uber BIOS, but CPU voltage is not one of 'em). There's also no mention of what they're doing to run the CPU at 100%. Do you think they actually are running the CPU at 100%? If not (and my guess on the voltage is right), they're actually cooling more like ~55W (or less). FWIW, 55W also puts their BIP numbers into the ballpark I'd expect. OK, that was fun your turn to dissect the next one!