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Unread 07-09-2004, 08:28 AM   #27
AngryAlpaca
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I can understand where you are coming from here, but if sevral people on random forums, lets call it person A on forum X and person b on forum y. If both person A and B said something you did not like about your blocks perhaps inacurate, but maybe accurate under their testing situation, would you refuse to send a block to review to the front page of forum X and forum Y? Just think about it.
It's been proven by three calibrated sources that I know of. Bill Adams (unregistered) has been doing the best testing for a long time (ever, as far as I'm concerned) and he knows what he is talking about. With an Athlon the MCW6000 is superior at all flow rates from 0.5GPM to 2.5GPM by quite a large margin, and I'd imagine that the results stay the same with other processors based upon theory and probably testing.

He's not worried about the results (unless they directly contradict his and they refuse to acknowledge that they may be wrong) as long as the system is accurate and they show some skill. This guy also seems to have an attitude that he knows all about watercooling, but for some reason his article is lacking in accuracy in a lot of places.

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1.) Just using that as an example, (I have done my homework on this ) the Maze 4 is relatively free flowing and it really does not require a 300+GPH pump. Perhaps the RBX does not "Require" a 300+ GPH pump, but it is very heavily recomended that you have a strong pump for a fairly restrictive block. How many people buy RBX's and put a 66GPH pump with 1 inch head on it? I am exagerating, but you get the point.
He should really clarify that statement as GPH has little to do with restriction. That statement should be along the lines of, "The Maze 4 only has 3.3" H2O of restriction at 1GPM, so a much weaker pump can be used without a problem, while the RBX has about 5 times that, and so your pump decision should reflect that" He'd also have to explain the restriction at some point.

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2.) High praise towards your swifty block eh?
Damned straight. www.procooling.com shows it's a damned good block on a calibrated setup. I do not know where your guy is getting his numbers from, as the MCW6002 beats all others at lower flow rates and as certainly as good as the others at higher ones.

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I think that was clearly his opinion, and he said it seems, not it DID. Seems could be in maybe 1 test it performed better, perhaps in 10 tests it performed better? Maybe it performed better with a stronger pump? A weaker pump? In a waterchiller setup? With a pelt? With a pentium2 throwing off 20 thermal watts? With an overclocked presscott throwing off 175 thermal watts?
He should clarify this too. We want sources when it contradicts our accurate information. pHaestus does different flow rates, so unless you're using ultra low end (less than 0.5 GPM, really bad pump) or ultra high end (more than 2.5GPM, several hundred dollar pump...) pumps, that's covered. A chiller won't make a difference as the delta T will remain the same, and neither will crack or whatever. Wattage also will not make a difference, although core size may in both of those cases. However, the theory (as I understand it) should still place the MCW 6002 above even with peltiers...

Send him a link and let him get involved.
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