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Originally Posted by freeloadingbum
A possible solution at the OC forums to reduce the "clue sucking noob" effect on the ambient clue rate could be to have a restricted section with specific requirements before access is granted (100 question test for instance)
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Nice suggestion, and the input is appreciated. However its a necessity to keep in mind the logistics of a forum the size of OCF. We have 1000's of active users. Pulling off ANYTHING on an individual member by member basis would be a huge undertaking. And administering a "test" doesn't seem plausible.
Really, what people like greenman and some others have been asking for in OCF, and what they haven't gotten there, and which is likely a source of frustration with them in atleast some small way, is a "Research and Development Forum". They had been calling it a technical discussion forum when they suggested such a thing, and then the issue came up of the varying definitions of what qualifies as "technical discussion". We had tech discussion before and it was a major drain on mod resources, many daily threads needed moved after being placed wrong and overall the threads never ended up being overwhelmingly technical. Calling it a "research and development forum" might send a more clear message to people of what belongs there, but I'm not sure if it would work or not.
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Originally Posted by Althornin
I must say, I read and lurked here, at OC, and several other sites for months before starting my own first watercooling project.
I didnt ask questions, because the answers were already there.
I read, and learned, and didnt clog up the forums with useless posts.
So when i set up my system, i knew what i was getting into, and i never had a problem.
Most people are unwilling to do this.
They want the answers now, and given to them, because they feel that thier time is worth more than anyone elses.
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I commend you, as thats the way things ought to best be done if the enthusiast community is going to make any consdireable advancements in the short term. However, its just not the nature of people on the internet.
Everyone wants it easy, and they want it yesterday. It's the overwhelming nature of people on the internet.
I don't see it as though they are making the statement that they think their time is more important. I see it as a statement that they just don't yet care to get their hands dirty with things. They haven't yet fully departed from the outlook of the average computer user - they just want something to work, they don't care to understand it completely, they just want it to do what they want.
I doesn't affect me if I tell them what I know, and it is a charitable action to do so. If they don't want to understand it, and just want the basics of how to get it done, I see nothing gained from denying them of that. And honestly, this is what keeps me and thousands of other people in the IT industry employed - the refusal for the average person to care about understanding the simple technology they work with.
Ultimately, I feel this way because I cannot see the point in ultimately taking the stance of the psuedo-scientist who is too pompous or
"busy" to be bothered with those who do not yet understand what he does.
After all, what is it that we do around here?
We water cool our computers, spend countless hours researching and tweaking, and all to get a performance improvement no larger than what could be attained by going out and buying it next week. We use car parts, commercial tubing, and hobbyist equipment to cool our computers.
If we don't want to share what we figure out from the countless hours we spend doing this, then what are we gaining from it?
@pH: I wanted to thank you for allowing us to hold this discussion. While some may find this dramatic, I think its beneficial for everyone involved to objectively analyze what we all do around here.