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Unread 07-22-2004, 04:27 PM   #12
GreenPsycho
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holy crap, this is probably one of the worst tempered forums i have ever been to. it seems some of you people care not for logic, but will do whatever you can to poke and prod at something that might have some minor issues. i have no reason to reply to arrogance or idiocy, so "unregistered's" remarks will not be addressed.


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Our point about the pictures is that you're putting too many of them in and not enough technical information.

Your first major error in my opinion is comparing it to a VA2600. Useless comparison there. You have the chart on its side, flow should be at the bottom and pressure at the side. Your graph is also hard to read due to the solid bars, and the line should stop at 0GPH.
i disagree. in fact, i think reviews on this site do not have enough pictures nor enough physical description of the product. as for the chart, it doesn't really matter which side is up or down. it reads the same way, and that is all that matters. just because everyone else is doing it a certain way, doesn't mean it the only way.

i'm not sure any comparison is useless. i compared it to the 2600 cause that is the pump i had at the time(actually, it died). what does it matter though? it just gives the reader a reference to go off of

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Which length? You're implying that tubing length is what affects flow
well, considering i showed the graph, it can only be assumed that we are talking about head pressure height

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Doesn't the D4 have higher pressure? Everything I've seen says "yes." Your test is flawed
what test may that be? i didn't not/could not test pressure. instead, i ran some quick tests to make sure that the graph on dd's site is correct and went from there. i never once said i tested pressure.

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That's directly contradictory to the previous sentence. More pressure allows a larger system, even though your test is flawed
not necessarily. i was told for my particular system(dual heatercore, 2 blocks, etc) that flow rate is more important because it was not a very restrictive system at all. everything was very open, so the main concern is to get water from the blocks to the rads asap.


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What kind of quiet electric razor? What RPM 40mm fan? I see the link now. It's the loudest pump there by far. You should point out that it's the loudest pump known.
you don't think that is a little nitpicky? i mean, come on man, lets not get crazy. you could do the same thing to every single review out there(including ones from procooling), but that isn't necessary. if you ask a regular modder what a 40mm fan sounds like, he gets an idea. if you ask any man what an electric razor sounds like, he knows what you mean. don't be silly. that is NOT the loudest pump known. i have had 2 that are louder, so i will not say its the loudest pump known. in fact, i can't even hear it above my fans, so it doesn't bother me the least. read my above post about subjectivity and noise.

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Rating it as quiet after showing proof that it's the loudest pump on the market does not go very well for most people...
i never proved that it was the loudest, you came up with that conclusion on your own and you are entitled to your opinion. however, i do not agree with yours, and i will not say something i do not agree with. if you wish, you can send me a sample of some other pumps to compare noise volumes to, and i'd be happy to amend the review. until then, everyone has to deal with what they have, and i maintain my position that the pump is not too loud.

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You may be writing for noobs, but are you doing them a favour?
how am i doing them a favor? basically, people just want to know which is better, and i believe we delivered. in that way, then i guess i am doing them a favor.


as for billa, i would like you to know that we have no interest in dealing with a company that employs people of your caliber that post this kind of garbage, which ultimately reflects on your company. You also seems to treat your customers quite badly, considering i've helped pay for your food the past few years. at any rate, we WILL review swiftech products, but from resellers, most definately not swiftech. i have half a mind of calling up right now to cancel my order.

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