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Unread 08-11-2004, 05:47 PM   #9
Blackeagle
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Originally Posted by Etacovda
Bah, DEFINED GOALS BEFORE PARTS SELECTION.

As Bill posted over at Wizd's site, " don't see anyone sparkplugging it at the moment at Pro Cooling - the idea of consensus there is laughable, pardon my saying so."


The goal is to compare to differantly designed cooling rigs. One that values performance above almost all else, and will tolerate a reasonable level of noise to get it, as Cathar and others put it well, "Brute force". The other wants good cooling, as good or better than the highest end air coolers, but MUST have low noise, or even better.....& should look good while doing it.

A major point is to decide on internal or exteranl set ups. I very much favor the external. This is very much main stream, look at the number of them now sold by such as Corsair, Exos, ThermalTake ect. ect...... And a external set up allows more flexability in pump and rad to use.

Second important goal to difine IMO, is the amount of noise this performance rig can have, to still be considered a reasonablly main stream set up. 35dba, 40....ect. That will set limits on both pump & fan selection to consider.

I'd favor a fairly high noise level. 35-40dba, but once again to reach a consensus we need a good number of people to post THIER thoughts, without concern of attack. (So lets have the flamebait regarding "fanboys" sh!t canned first off)

PUMP I'd favor a Iwaki, it's what I have, but I can well see the reasoning for going with the Swiftech 650 or D4, more "mainstream". Works for me.

RADS Heater cores are the first thought here. The real question is which one? I sent a e-mail to Cathar, perhaps one of the thinner ones as used in Australia would be more effective. But then it sure wouldn't be a "American" rig. And if Cathar intends to send a all Australian rig to pH, then that thought is moot.

In order to keep cooling level high, with sane nosie levels, in a 2" thick core, it must be large. The 2-342 single pass would be good, but the 2-192 old Ford tilt cab truck core would be perhaps better, if one can be obtained. If others agree with the idea of such a large core (10.75" X 10.25" X 2" for finned area alone.), I'll pay for it (I would expect to get it back if it's a expensive one, which I'm thinking it will be). So far I've been unable to locate where to buy one. I also look forward to seeing what others favor here.


FANS Pressure is the thing here, as with pumps. I've not used the Sanyo fans myself, but do like the numbers they show. Also interested in seeing what others suggest here. I've Delta 130cfm 120mm X 38mm, but they are loud, most likely to loud for many. Unlike pH & Bill, I see nothing wrong, in real world use, in a reobus to control fans, I've a Sunbeam reobus so I guess the Deltas are to loud for me as well.

CPU block I'd pick the White Water here. RBX would be my second choice.

GPU block Fusion
I think the inclusion of a GPU block in the loop, as a secondary test is important. This part of the testing would be of more interest to the EU people perhaps than here, but many do use multiple blocks. I'd also want to see numbers on the two loops with just the CPU block in. (Provided this isn't more than pH is willing to do, this IS asking a lot.)

I really, REALLY do want to see this comparison test go forward. And pH, I'm real glad to see you're still interested as welll.


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