[BillA]

fat burgers will do anything to keep their house, Vichy France comes to mind
all arguments from an economic basis are based on greed

I would propose a division of the 'liberal' camp: thoughtful liberals and stupid liberals
there seem to be a number of greedy little posters who are concerned only with their immediate self interest
this gives those with a larger concern for the well being of all a bad rap

Ben, look where 'peace in our time' leads - over and over
but its not your ox being gored, so its not your problem

anyone remember the Cash song sung by Joanie Phonie "there but for fortune go you or I"
you guys are pitiful, no vision at all - and why you need leaders (good or bad), you are sheep

Addendum:
I should add that the same type of division should be performed on the 'conservative' camp: fiscal conservatives and religious bigots
the born agains have co-opted the Republican party to its discredit, but hey - everyone gets a vote
(why I do not do so)