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Unread 10-23-2004, 03:22 AM   #300
Lothar5150
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Originally Posted by pHaestus
I seem to keep coming across relevant and interesting links today:



"In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend—but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

From here: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/ma...gin&oref=login
Come on pH the New York Times just endorsed Kerry for president this week. Moreover, it is the New York Times and the guy is a writer for Esquire.

I love how this stuff only comes out during the elections from both parties. I was just discussing crap like this with my old boss from my tour in Iraq. He is a very staunch Republican and I am a Democrat but we both agree that lies come from both parties right now.

If the spent more time discussing real issues we might be able to make a real educated choice...Party Hacks
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