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pHaestus · 11-07-2004, 11:15 AM

I find the gay-marriage bans and the shift towards "Christian values" in the election process to be frightening. I suspect far smaller support would be present for the right to burn a US flag in dempnstration today than 10 years ago, and a flag burning amendment MIGHT fly now. Sure corrupting the "sanctity of marriage" and defiling the flag and eschewing the tenants of the majority religion all seem like bad things to the majority of US people. That doesn't necessarily make it right tho.

Jim Crow laws and segregation were accepted by the majority of people in the south even though they violated the Constitutional rights of citizenry. Bush has stated that he thinks theories competing with evolution should be taught in science class; the only ones around are creationism and intelligent design (which is creationism in a new suit). There's no SCIENCE in either; just philosophy and religion. But they can get a majority of votes in the states that gay marriage ban passed I bet (and most non NW states that voted for Bush too). This means that students of the future MAY be getting religious training and "christian values" from their public schools and have pressure on them to fall in like with those in school and at the ballot box. Look I am pretty passionate about this because I grew up in a small city in the bible belt. I was fortunate to go to one of the best public schools in the state for academics (though the state was probably ranked 48-49 overall) and got a solid high school education. I remember almost 1/3 of my class leaving the room when the teacher stated that we were going to talk about evolution for the next week, and that those with a religious conflict to this theory could go to the library and work on an independent study project instead for the same credit. Everyone in that room tallied up everyone else's position, and I had a few people in the class that no longer wanted to have anything to do with me because I obviously wasn't Christian.

In college the announcement was a little different. The biology prof said that he recognized that some religions had a problem with evolution, so if you didn't feel comfortable learning about it then to skip the next 3 lectures and go find a different course to take because you would be failing BIOL. Kinda egoistic but what do you expect from profs.

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pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I find the gay-marriage bans and the shift towards "Christian values" in the election process to be frightening. I suspect far smaller support would be present for the right to burn a US flag in dempnstration today than 10 years ago, and a flag burning amendment MIGHT fly now. Sure corrupting the "sanctity of marriage" and defiling the flag and eschewing the tenants of the majority religion all seem like bad things to the majority of US people. That doesn't necessarily make it right tho. Jim Crow laws and segregation were accepted by the majority of people in the south even though they violated the Constitutional rights of citizenry. Bush has stated that he thinks theories competing with evolution should be taught in science class; the only ones around are creationism and intelligent design (which is creationism in a new suit). There's no SCIENCE in either; just philosophy and religion. But they can get a majority of votes in the states that gay marriage ban passed I bet (and most non NW states that voted for Bush too). This means that students of the future MAY be getting religious training and "christian values" from their public schools and have pressure on them to fall in like with those in school and at the ballot box. Look I am pretty passionate about this because I grew up in a small city in the bible belt. I was fortunate to go to one of the best public schools in the state for academics (though the state was probably ranked 48-49 overall) and got a solid high school education. I remember almost 1/3 of my class leaving the room when the teacher stated that we were going to talk about evolution for the next week, and that those with a religious conflict to this theory could go to the library and work on an independent study project instead for the same credit. Everyone in that room tallied up everyone else's position, and I had a few people in the class that no longer wanted to have anything to do with me because I obviously wasn't Christian. In college the announcement was a little different. The biology prof said that he recognized that some religions had a problem with evolution, so if you didn't feel comfortable learning about it then to skip the next 3 lectures and go find a different course to take because you would be failing BIOL. Kinda egoistic but what do you expect from profs.