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Originally Posted by unregistered
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now you are looking like an ass
to be clear, a burro, donkey, or fool
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A small price to pay for caring. If you're more comfortable with clever than caring that's not my problem.
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Originally Posted by Lothar5150
Kobuchi- lets be clear about were we are along the historical time line. Iraqis current government is recognized by all nations, including Canada, as the sovereign government of Iraq. That government is headed Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi who had the final authority for implementation of this operation. The Iraqis asked us to perform a joint operation with forces of the sovereign nation of Iraq, in order to remove foreign fighters from their country, so that they may hold elections in two months.
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President Laurent Gbagbo is the internationally recognised leader of Ivory Coast. His air force recently ended a 2003 ceasefire with rebels, who hold a large part of the country. Note that Ivory Coast is preparing for elections.
The strikes are part of what President Laurent Gbagbo calls an operation to "liberate and reunify" Ivory Coast. Opponents claim the attacks are intended to destabilise the northern region, so it cannot effectively participate in elections.
If President Gbagbo's representative at the UN stands up and asks foreigners to enter the country and help bomb the rebel strongholds, I'll remember your argument, Lothar5150, and where you obviously stand on the issue. One final loop for you: guess what role
the French are taking in this one.
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Originally Posted by Lothar5150
By the way the hospital that was secured yesterday...that was done by Iraqi Government forces...not US Marines. Look closely at the camouflage pattern, US Marines where the digital pattern like your Canadian troops. In any case it looks like the Iraqis are doing a good job.
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That's right. The hospital was cut off, and then, meeting no resistance, exile group fighters (Badr Brigades, Kurds, foreign-born Iraqis trained in Hungary compose that commando unit) stormed it.
The US military said Iraqi troops captured 38 people, including four foreigners when they swept into the first objective: Fallujah’s main hospital, which the military and Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi said was under insurgent control.
The US military said insurgents had been in control of Fallujah General Hospital – located on the west bank of the Euphrates – and were “forcing the doctors there to release propaganda and false information”.
It underlined in a statement that when hospitals “are used for military purposes they lose … protected status”.
By tending to any injured who enter its doors, and allowing reporters to photograph casualties (e.g. toddlers with limbs blown off - want link?), the hospital had become a valid military target. The US military later clarified they had met little resistance in taking the hospital, and there were no casualties.
"U.S. and Iraqi forces entered Fallujah General Hospital late Sunday night and immediately began an inventory of supplies and medical equipment, said Col. John R. Ballard, commander of the Marine 4th Civil Affairs Group based in Washington, D.C."
"Dr. Al-Issawi told Agence France-Presse that Marines would not let him or other hospital staff move to another facility inside Fallujah in order to be of actual help to the people of the city."
I guess this hospital will only be serving freedom now. Yes or no, Lothar5150?
Look, a valid military target got away: "Sami al-Jumaili, a doctor at the main Fallujah hospital who escaped arrest when it was taken, said the city was running out of medical supplies and only a few clinics remained open.
"There is not a single surgeon in Fallujah. We had one ambulance hit by US fire and a doctor wounded. There are scores of injured civilians in their homes whom we can't move.
"A 13-year-old child just died in my hands," he said by telephone from a house where he had gone to help the wounded."
In many war zones, hospitals are the last refuge for reporters. Allawi does not want reporters on the scene in Fallujah. So, first, destroy all the hospitals:
Newly-built hospital destroyed
One smart bomb for the main building, one for the medical supplies warehouse.
Another:
Hospital hit as fighting rages in Falluja
"The clinic's telephones were no longer working.
Al-Dulaimi said the hospital's staff, doctors and patients, have all fallen victim to the assault. He said such fierce bombings have not been witnessed since the Iran-Iraq war.
The US military said it had no immediate information on any attack on the clinic."
I found two fresh valid military targets: "An old cinema has been transformed into a operating room for a public clinic after the general hospital was seized by Iraqi forces on Monday."
and,
"Hazra Mohammadiyah, another makeshift clinic set up inside a mosque in the centre of Fallujah, is slightly more fortunate as it still has one ambulance left to pick up the wounded."
Now tell me, Lothar5150, the cinema and mosque will not be hit with smart bombs sometime soon. You know the reporters are heading there right now - those places must be just churning out the lies and false numbers.
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Originally Posted by cybrsamurai
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I don't buy it. If the republican party reflects the Bush administration, then it sticks to (a highly creative interpretation of) the law. Rigging polls has got to be illegal, however you twist it.