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Unread 11-10-2004, 04:28 AM   #468
Kobuchi
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: BC, Canada
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Originally Posted by unregistered
your position of 100% bias is clear
Funny how a citizen of the country knee-deep in war finds those of neutral countries "biased".

I don't deny the regime change was intended to protect the interests of Americans - more so than most for or against it realise. No evil in that.
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Originally Posted by unregistered
enjoy
Canada isn't part of the EU. I'm looking at hard times ahead too.
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Originally Posted by superart
wow.

so buildings inside of a warzone tend to get destroyd???.....hmmmmmm....whoda thunkit???........

what a lot of people don't realize is that this is really war. and in war there will be calateral damage. thats just life. we do the best we can to avoid it, but sometimes its just not avoidable. tahts the nature of war. thats life.
Try that on the 9/11 families. I can't believe you're so hollow, so I'll forget the comments.

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Originally Posted by Lothar5150
If they ask for help creating an environment conducive to legitimate elections then I am all for lending it.
The magic words are democracy and freedom, I guess. This explains Chalabi.

You should anticipate news events as the debate proceeds. Otherwise I'll keep lining you up against them: U.S. forces battle way into Fallujah; Sunni clerics urge boycott of elections
"The move against Fallujah prompted influential Sunni Muslim clerics to call for a boycott of national elections set for January. A widespread boycott among Sunnis could wreck the legitimacy of the elections, seen as vital in Iraq's move to democracy. U.S. commanders have said the Fallujah invasion is the centrepiece of an attempt to secure insurgent-held areas so voting can be held. "
One could spin this cause-and-effect 180 degrees, and perpetuate the luxury of blaming dark forces for Iraq's troubles, but that won't help.
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Originally Posted by Lothar5150
Moreover, the hospitals were being used a propaganda machines.
How's that? They tolerated foreign journalists. Better kill just the journalists then. Wouldn't you rather shoot dead a few disobedient CBS cameramen than demolish an entire hospital of Iraqis? Surely this could have been arranged.

Both hospitals destroyed were taken out early and at long range. Missiles/bombs. But sure if snipers were in there this would be a problem eventually. Why do Fallujans think they need to defend their hospitals?
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Originally Posted by Lothar5150
You don’t see the Dems complaining about the fairness of the elections, why should a Canadian like you worry.
Why should you think I was worried? I said I have total faith in your people to obey (some interpretation of) law, and don't buy the idea anyone rigged the polls.

Personally, I'd be happier with an insular, benign, straight-talking dictatorship to the south. One that didn't feel compelled to pull stunts impressing voters, and excusing itself to the world for a fresh start every four or eight years. I feel this would fit the American character better. Perhaps your leader could have minor changes of mood over the years.
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