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Unread 11-14-2004, 03:24 PM   #508
Kobuchi
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Originally Posted by Guderian
So are you implying that these events are part of normal everyday society?
No. I'm saying we all like to judge a group by its most spectacular acts, even if by the rare extremist. The Iraqi resistence (broadly speaking that's the bulk of the population) cuts off heads as "common practice", for example. I'm saying there is a great hunger in America to find evil abroad. This is a problem.
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Originally Posted by Guderian
I think you need to do a little study of (WWII Japanese war crimes) before you start off on others.
We could be agreeing, but you're determined the foreigner must be at odds.

The rest of the argument I roughly agree with, and includes points I've made already:
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Originally Posted by Guderian
And I think you should stop speaking for your countrymen, you can only speak of YOUR perception.

And perception can only be as accurate as the information that creates it. If you limit yourself to one-sided media, you will have a one-sided perception.

Consider the source: Did these rebels get tortured, or perhaps see torture occuring? Maybe they heard it from a reliable source, like uncle akbar's sons' wifes' best friend's brothers' mistresses' fathers' former roomate who swears by allah that every word she said is true.

Do you have any idea how biased any information out of Iraq is, on both sides. you must take info from both sides, run it through a bullshit detector, and then start discussing.

Kobuchi, You can disagree with how things are done, but you can't begin to comment on why things are done. Get your head out of your ass, check your sources for bias as stringently as you check us for it, and take a moment to step back and see the overall scheme. You may still disagree, but perhaps you can eliminate the 'pop media' ramblings shit.
I can comment on why things are done. You can't make an enemy of me; you'll need to look elsewhere.
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