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Originally Posted by Lothar5150

Case Law... lets see it. Again, this law is almost 30 years old let us see how this law played out in the courts. We don’t need to wait for the Presbyterian Church to go to court, let’s look at few cases that have been ruled upon including appeals and judicial reviews up to the US Supreme Court. (I’m waiting)

You were waiting for me? Well... thank you!

Here's an odd one. Discriminatory hiring. What's that got to do with illegal boycotts? Antiboycott law applied because the discrimination was against a Jew who wanted a position managing sales to Arab countries. Weird, but idealistic - I like it.

Here's another. On eight occasions, the mail-order company McMaster-Carr "failed to report its receipt of boycott-related requests within the time period required by the EAR". Although the company did voluntarily disclose the alleged violations to the department, it has agreed to pay an $8,000 civil penalty. Want a bet none of those offending requests involved France, Zimbabwe, or China?

This one's cute. "Specifically, the OAC (Office of Antiboycott Compliance) alleged that G.M. Marketing told other parties to the transactions that ships involved in the transactions were able to enter ports located in the boycotting countries. These statements, according to OAC, conveyed information about the blacklist status of those ships, thereby illegally complying with the boycott."

Here's a German subsidiary of Dell forking over to the US Department of Commerce, because it "furnished information regarding its business relationships with Israel" to a customer. I wonder if Dell USA furnished information regarding its business relationships with Germany? Why not get them twice? Anyway, the German company pays because otherwise it'll be blacklisted. Antiboycott operates by counter-boycott.

Originally Posted by Lothar5150

What is your point... are you anti-Semitic?

No. But I said the spirit of these laws is pro-Israel and you said I'm mistaken. Your accusation is little more appropriate than if I'd said a law was pro-Brazil and you asked am I anti-Catholic. Also, it's impossible to discuss the antiboycott laws without Israel in the foreground. I think these laws funny because they're written broadly to cover any country not officially sanctioned, yet they're enforced in a very selective way. I stand by that and you aren't doing well to disprove it.

Originally Posted by Lothar5150

Don't be rediculos there will not be any type of trade war.

Any type of trade war is out of the question... and trade disputes involving tariffs and counter-tariffs are normal? You said both. Make up your mind.

Originally Posted by Lothar5150

Personally, I don’t blame them for doing it. Like I said you have to ensure you maintain a base for certain industries.

Fair enough.

America will not be held hostage by foreign energy exporters. Canada and its friends are committed to fostering strength in the US energy industry. To this end *pulls plug* we believe hard incentives necessary *cranks valve* to prompt increased self reliance *throws switch* and ultimate self-sufficiency to protect the American way of life from the whims of foreign interests.

*fires up aluminum smelter*

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The DOE site:

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Oil can be pumped from the Reserve at a maximum rate of 4.3 million barrels per day for up to 90 days, then the drawdown rate begins to decline as storage caverns are emptied. At 1 million barrels per day, the Reserve can release oil into the market continuously for nearly a year and a half.
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Nothing to sneeze at. It could steadily supply 1/20th of demand for sour crude, for over a year.

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Weathermen aren't often in the position of selling snowsuits on the side.

It was obvious from the start WMD was a Big Lie. Drones of Death!? Come on. Transcript of the Hussein Kamel interrogation was available to the public well before the invasion. Analysis of his defection and the consequences of secretly "leveraging" his testimony illuminated otherwise odd behaviour on both sides. Certain individuals tried hard to get this intelligence out, but we were up against a childish anti-war chant on one side, and cognitive dissonence already in motion and on the other. And it's still in motion, spiraling day by day. The majority of Americans now think the invasion wasn't worth it. Democracy for Iraqis is just the last rationalisation.