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Unread 12-21-2004, 08:24 PM   #74
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Originally Posted by Blackeagle
Well I see Pro Coolings rep as a site for the "rude & obsessive" is being upheld.
Your way doesn't do any good, my way got a bad review pulled. Get it?
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BalefireX, your #6 post was a fine attempt to derail the bar-b-que. Nice try.
No, that post was completely stupid. I would say ignorant but he has been here long enough and so have you to know why it was stupid.
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I wish WesM63's article was still up so I could read it.......but it's not. From what I read he did error in not factoring in the ambient temp differance but also admitted so clearly here and corrected it promptly.....and there may have been mounting issues to. OK, so as a new reviewer he had some problems. But does hosting a bar-b-que help? No. Does it do any harm I hear some thinking....yes it does.....a great deal of harm.......to this sites rep.
Yeah, a mistake that should not be made period. A second mistake that should not have been made period. He is NOT A NEW REVIEWER. This was the only review he planned to do. He sold the freaking system. His main error was doing a half assed review. This site's rep is not harmed a bit.
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How much of his first post was based on the two posts before it........and how much from what he knew of this sites past rep for flaming the shit out of anyone falling short of the standards held to here? I'd bet a good deal of it, based on his first post, was due to past fire fests. But I don't have to bet on it you see, I know. I know as I'm the member he refered to in his first post who warned him not to make claims of accurate temps not supported by equipment up to the task. But I also told him he'd not be flamed to death if he was up front in stating his methods & his limitations. So much for Bill and JD's comments earlier regarding his opening disclaimers. He made that clear disclaimer to try'n avoid just what's gone on here. His honest mistakes were matches in the hands of arsonists. And Bignuts following first post was the 5 gallons of gas to make sure the fire stayed a hot one.
What the **** dude? He didn't state his methods and limitations. He blatantly said he didn't give a shit about proper testing and his review was "no bull" when in fact is was complete bull! The way he sated it was his way was the only way needed and proper testing was unnecessary. So cut the ****ing bull shit!
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After that start nobody here had any hope to really offer any sort of positive critical advise. So you all just decried Wes's not licking up any drops of info you thought he should be gratefull for........BS!
Who cares, it was a one off review. No point in teaching him anything, especially after making it blatantly clear he didn't care.
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Which is why this site is often dismissed at other sites as a place of extremist-know-it-alls who love being assholes. I don't recall who, and it doesn't really matter, but I've seen one member's sig when posting at other sites which states......."Pro Cooling.....It's true we are often a bunch of assholes." Like that's a badge of honor or some such.......yeah right.
Seems to be getting things done.
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I doubt anyone else here has met Wes63, I have. He's a hell of a nice guy when not under attack. Sorry none here had the chance to get to know that. Pro Coolings loss, though I'm sure far to many here won't believe that.......which just goes to prove it more true.
No a loss at all. He made it very clear he didn't give a shit about the way ProCooling does things.
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Now regarding one of the "facts" posted in this mess.

JD posted a graph taken form the interactive block comparison chart.......but which jet did the author use (I honestly don't know).........and which jet is used in the interactive graph? If as JD suggested in one earlier post in this thread the one in the interactive is with the "stock" jet, and Wes63 was making use of the #4 or #5 jet......then how relavent is posting that graph?
I asked the question which jets where used and no one answered. :shrug: After finding out his main mistakes it turned out to be completely irrelevant anyway.
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I'd like to suggest that the one in the interactive graph be labeled so anyone can see what the data shown really represents. And in fact, IMO, it would be even better to list the TDX/RBX twice to show the differance the differant jets (original vs #5) make. Or would the number 5 jet perhaps show the TDX in a better light?
Take it up with pH.
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The biggest surprise to me regarding this thread is the revelation of PlayerO reading his members PMs. While not illegal here as it is in much of the EU and Aus. it is a contemptable act. Sad to see how little PlayerO understands how deeply it offends, or he'd never have braged of it in this thread & needled Cathar regarding it. As it becomes better known It'll cause a loss of some of his membership, keep other perspective members well away & generally result in a total lack of trust in his leadership @ LN.
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Sigh,

BalefireX,

May the force be with you............

I very seldom post here any longer.........this thread is a good representation of why I don't. I've seen to many just like it.....
Your a good man BE but your way way off base on this one.
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