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Originally Posted by Lothar5150
I could care less if you said Lothar you are a coward but don't ever again say that the Marines I had the honor of leading are cowards.
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Quote please, with context. I may have said this unintentionally, but I doubt it. No twisting either; if I said someone has to run from time to time, that doesn't mean I labelled him a Runner. You certainly want me to have said it.
Contrast how I responded to your comment about knocking over my country's Armed Forces with your Cub Scouts, and such taunts.
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Originally Posted by Lothar5150
Kobuchi, if you are ever in combat you will realize that all men in combat are brave. I don't care what side of the fight you are on, EVERYONE is very scared and everyone still showed. That’s what you don’t get and you will never get.
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Wrong. I understood that before, despite your wish that I never will. Get yourself some bad-guy action figures, and make up speeches with them. It may be therapeutic.
You're trying to shift the issue of bravery from the operational level (is that the right term?) I was talking about (e.g. mining roads, timing convoys,
bombing hospitals) to what individual Marines feel in their guts during idealised firefight combat. I didn't say anything about that, and I agree you know it better than I. But bravery and cowardice exist on many levels: an entire war can be judged "brave" for example. One needn't be a combat veteran to have informed opinions in this.
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Don't you ever presume to understand cowardice, Lothar5150, a thing of which you have no experience. I, on the other hand, have first hand experience. I have an
expert opinion. I know who the real cowards are, and who they aren't. And just remember Lothar5150, that were it not for fear and worry you and all your comrades would have been run though bullets and under tanks long ago. Thank the military institution of cowardice that keeps forces protected.
