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Hotseat · 02-19-2005, 07:14 AM

Morning guys, looks like Bill is at it again, hence the reason I don't want to spend anytime around here. I had enough of trolls back in may video game days, but I said I would come by and give a update, and someone emailed me this "Bill is at it agian" link

First, we started to designed the MAG almost from the first day we started C-Systems, it has been in testing last 6 months, and has gone through 2 engineering reviews for C-Systems and there clients insurance companies.
And in case you didn't notice, Bill is suggesting a pump that uses ceramic bearings, and operates in magnetic suspension will not last.

The MAG, like the 750, was designed for the another company, based on there spec's (this is what AVT does). But unlike the 750, I included my own additional requirements, so that the pump could be used by all. The MAG was designed for high pressure and outlet restrictions. It is also very easy to adapt having a large flow, pressure, and wattage range to meet OEM requirements. We tried to give them something that could be easliy changed with market trends.

I suggested to C-Systems they use aluminum with an Anolok finish for general hobby home use, because of the different fittings used across the world.
Making the ports in plastic I believe would cause install issues with metal fittings.
I also suggested they use NPT and not NPT-F which also caused confusion.

There is a plastic version that is barbed and has no threads and hopefully no issues, and I understand from Dave that they may release this to all, but right now there busy filling current OEM orders, which use a specizied port, a stamped case, looks ugly, and would likely not fit your general needs.

The MAG has a 50,000 hour rating, but just as the DDR, this is fluid dependant.
You can't put swamp water in and expect it to last, just like any pump

I believe C-Systems has a 2-3 year warranty.

Anyone that has an issue with a 750, C-Systems has a support staff (Dave) and AVT will be sponsering a low cost upgrade program with C-Systems for anyone that has a 750 and needs a pump for very high restrictions.

Somewhat as an outsider, just a quick observation.
Why are you guys making more and more restrictive blocks?

Nothing in Dr. Shiping Yu's work suggests micro channel design will benefit from increased restricting flow?

Anyhow, back to the CAD station. At AVT we are developing the next generation DC-hydro pumps for active automotive suspensions. I tell you this, because some of this pump general tech may hit you guys in the future. There is recent bearing technology that maybe of use to you all. Will likely be patended and licensed to hell, like all automotive tech but still a good read.

Best to all, Dan.

02-19-2005, 07:14 AM	#15
Hotseat Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 62	Morning guys, looks like Bill is at it again, hence the reason I don't want to spend anytime around here. I had enough of trolls back in may video game days, but I said I would come by and give a update, and someone emailed me this "Bill is at it agian" link First, we started to designed the MAG almost from the first day we started C-Systems, it has been in testing last 6 months, and has gone through 2 engineering reviews for C-Systems and there clients insurance companies. And in case you didn't notice, Bill is suggesting a pump that uses ceramic bearings, and operates in magnetic suspension will not last. The MAG, like the 750, was designed for the another company, based on there spec's (this is what AVT does). But unlike the 750, I included my own additional requirements, so that the pump could be used by all. The MAG was designed for high pressure and outlet restrictions. It is also very easy to adapt having a large flow, pressure, and wattage range to meet OEM requirements. We tried to give them something that could be easliy changed with market trends. I suggested to C-Systems they use aluminum with an Anolok finish for general hobby home use, because of the different fittings used across the world. Making the ports in plastic I believe would cause install issues with metal fittings. I also suggested they use NPT and not NPT-F which also caused confusion. There is a plastic version that is barbed and has no threads and hopefully no issues, and I understand from Dave that they may release this to all, but right now there busy filling current OEM orders, which use a specizied port, a stamped case, looks ugly, and would likely not fit your general needs. The MAG has a 50,000 hour rating, but just as the DDR, this is fluid dependant. You can't put swamp water in and expect it to last, just like any pump I believe C-Systems has a 2-3 year warranty. Anyone that has an issue with a 750, C-Systems has a support staff (Dave) and AVT will be sponsering a low cost upgrade program with C-Systems for anyone that has a 750 and needs a pump for very high restrictions. Somewhat as an outsider, just a quick observation. Why are you guys making more and more restrictive blocks? Nothing in Dr. Shiping Yu's work suggests micro channel design will benefit from increased restricting flow? Anyhow, back to the CAD station. At AVT we are developing the next generation DC-hydro pumps for active automotive suspensions. I tell you this, because some of this pump general tech may hit you guys in the future. There is recent bearing technology that maybe of use to you all. Will likely be patended and licensed to hell, like all automotive tech but still a good read. Best to all, Dan. Last edited by Hotseat; 02-19-2005 at 08:03 AM.