You know my own countries history better that I do then ...
Belgian democracy being a result of AMERICAN pressure? WTF?
The only thing you guys CAN claim here is the fact that you liberated us from the germans,which was a war we didn't even have anything to do with in that first place. You guys came to fight this war on our territory.
But the fact that we're a democracy now, as far as I'm concearned, the Americans don't have anything to do with that.
The first democratic government here was a result of the belgian revolution in 1830, which was a conflict during which we liberated ourselves from external suppressors. During that time, the American's were not interfering with politics here.
And as far as I know, there are stories like this to the French and the Luxemburg democracies too.
So get your story straight before you try to be a hero. It's not because a country is a democracy and you once fought a war in that country, that it owes it democracy to you ...
Comments like this piss me off. And it pisses of the better part of the world. The Americans think they rule the world an that everybody owes everything to them ...
Well, newsflash: This mentality is going to make more and more people dislike the Americans.
We Belgians choose deliberately not to invest a substantial part of our funds in our army ... what do we get for that? Healthcare, Social security and one of the better countries in the world regarding wellfare. You Americans are left without any income when you're without a job, no healthcare, and so on ... Lead by example ... tssssssss. Get your own country sorted out before you go and tell others how to lead.
Go and fight your wars all over the world, investing so much of your own wellfare into them. And use excuses like democracy to go get OIL in Iraq... But don't expect the world to agree with your ways of doing things. There are aother alternatives to solve conflicts. And don't be surprised if terrorists choose your country for some plane-dropping or other terrorist acts.
And for the record. I myself am very proud to be a Belgian. We are the first country that refused to take part in the Iraq war, which was so aggressively started by the Americans. Because we didn't believe in its purpose. No weapons of mass destruction were found there, which was the first reason to start the war, remember? What do they use now as an excuse? ... democracy
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Originally Posted by Lothar5150
Are you kidding...?
Saddam grabbed power via the Ba'ath party do your home work, the CIA had nothing to do with his rise to power. AK-47…think about it.
Nicaragua is a democracy today because of US pressure and intervention in Honduras and El Salvador... Oh and they are democracies as well.
Cuba...well I'm half Cuban American. Cuba is poor because of Castro not because we put an embargo on the Island. Hell our embargo doesn't bar Canada or any other nation from trading with that dictator...in fact you do. Castro was a vassal dictator of the Soviet Union and now that meal ticket is gone. I guess this proves that Communism is a horseshit economic theory.
Iraq...I'm not going to dignify that with an answer, but IMO thanks for sending the ballots and ink to Iraq.
9mmCensor
Here is a list of countries that are now democratic as a result of US direct military action or diplomatic pressure.
France
Belgium
Norway
Denmark
Sweden
Germany
Austria
Luxemburg
Italy
Greece
South Africa
Venezuela
El Salvador
Honduras
Nicaragua
Chile
Iraq
Afghanistan
Poland
Japan
Philippines
South Korea
Taiwan

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