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zbarnes · 02-24-2005, 05:50 PM

Well, the Eheim deal got bought by someone else. I'll probably be asking about some other deal later....

As far as the video card fan, it is actually very quiet compared to most I have heard. Still though, I will probably get a Maze ( the 3 or the 4, I can't remember) GPU block EDIT:or a swifty mcw50, a few months down the road.

My hard drives do alright too on noise, though I have three of them (WD80's). So the beast of a noisemaker in my computer is the CPU fan. The heatsink is from a stock 2800+ cooler( the fan shattered), and the fan is from a coolermaster that was on a Athlon 1.13 ghz

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From what I see on the forums, lots of people do their systems cheaper than most people think. As long as I make my own radiator (albiet ugly), I think I can keep the cost/ performance ratio good.

At OCforums I get:

"don't cheap out on a pump for your setup, you truly get what you pay for - the hydor's purely suck flat out - they don't have the best flowrate or amount of head, and if you exceed the rated head of them, after a while the propeller just starts to spin and wobble mindlessly, not pumping any water, which isnt good"

Extreme overclocking:
"you recommed the Hydor L20, is this better than the mag3?"
"No, but it's cheaper and no work required, with less noise and similar(ish) performance.

"How about the Hydor L35 being better than the Enhiem?"
"nope, Enheim is better."

XtremeSystems:

"Well I would go with the hydor l35.. it is more powerful than the 1250"

I have heard that mag 3's, the hydor's, and the enheims are all better than each other! Crazy!

My guess is that angryalpaca must be right

"ALL standard pumps perform about the same. By standard, I mean pretty much all pumps with flow between 180GPH and 5 feet pressure to ~400GPH and 12 feet pressure. In a typical system, consisting of a Procore and an MCW 6002, there will be NO measurable difference between these pumps. Changes start getting noticeable on the low end faster. The differences get larger with more blocks, and more resistance, but they’re still very small. "

Can anyone else back this up?

I won't skimp on the cpu block(swiffy mcw6002) but from what most people say, most pumps from about $50-75 perform about the same in a water cooling setup. Some are just more fancy than others. (DC and whatnot).

What do you guys say about these fans:

The Panaflo M1A $12
http://www.jab-tech.com/customer/pro...artner=froogle

Or these enermax http://www.jab-tech.com/customer/pro...&cat=81&page=1

Anything better for around the same cost?

If you guys know of any good deal on anything in the system, let me know.

Thanks!

02-24-2005, 05:50 PM	#6
zbarnes Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: IL Posts: 6	Well, the Eheim deal got bought by someone else. I'll probably be asking about some other deal later.... As far as the video card fan, it is actually very quiet compared to most I have heard. Still though, I will probably get a Maze ( the 3 or the 4, I can't remember) GPU block EDIT:or a swifty mcw50, a few months down the road. My hard drives do alright too on noise, though I have three of them (WD80's). So the beast of a noisemaker in my computer is the CPU fan. The heatsink is from a stock 2800+ cooler( the fan shattered), and the fan is from a coolermaster that was on a Athlon 1.13 ghz . From what I see on the forums, lots of people do their systems cheaper than most people think. As long as I make my own radiator (albiet ugly), I think I can keep the cost/ performance ratio good. At OCforums I get: "don't cheap out on a pump for your setup, you truly get what you pay for - the hydor's purely suck flat out - they don't have the best flowrate or amount of head, and if you exceed the rated head of them, after a while the propeller just starts to spin and wobble mindlessly, not pumping any water, which isnt good" Extreme overclocking: "you recommed the Hydor L20, is this better than the mag3?" "No, but it's cheaper and no work required, with less noise and similar(ish) performance. "How about the Hydor L35 being better than the Enhiem?" "nope, Enheim is better." XtremeSystems: "Well I would go with the hydor l35.. it is more powerful than the 1250" I have heard that mag 3's, the hydor's, and the enheims are all better than each other! Crazy! My guess is that angryalpaca must be right "ALL standard pumps perform about the same. By standard, I mean pretty much all pumps with flow between 180GPH and 5 feet pressure to ~400GPH and 12 feet pressure. In a typical system, consisting of a Procore and an MCW 6002, there will be NO measurable difference between these pumps. Changes start getting noticeable on the low end faster. The differences get larger with more blocks, and more resistance, but they’re still very small. " Can anyone else back this up? I won't skimp on the cpu block(swiffy mcw6002) but from what most people say, most pumps from about $50-75 perform about the same in a water cooling setup. Some are just more fancy than others. (DC and whatnot). What do you guys say about these fans: The Panaflo M1A $12 http://www.jab-tech.com/customer/pro...artner=froogle Or these enermax http://www.jab-tech.com/customer/pro...&cat=81&page=1 Anything better for around the same cost? If you guys know of any good deal on anything in the system, let me know. Thanks! Last edited by zbarnes; 02-24-2005 at 06:23 PM.