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Lothar5150 · 03-01-2005, 10:59 PM

jman1310

I don’t agree with the Democrat/Republican theory on winning wars…we only lost one war in the 20th century (Vietnam) and it lasted thru three presidents one democrat and two republicans. The loss was political not a military defeat.

Korea was a success in that the political and military aims were meet as per the UN. Further, let’s not forget Kosovo was/is a success. (Ok, it looks like pdf27 made this point already)

jman1310 & pdf27

Many pesticides and industrial chemicals are precursors for modern chemical weapons, in some cases it’s just a matter of concentration. Yes, most any industrial chemical plant can be put to use making chemical weapons…no paint required.

BTW many of the Nazi camp victims were gassed with high concentrations of common pesticides.

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Nexxo

You my beg all you like but you wrong here. Dictators give lip service to an ideology but they maintain control buy the use of fear and brutality. Terrorists maintain control of their followers by cultive personally and ideology. These are two are as different as apples and oranges. The aims of a dictator is to operate a state and maintain order, the aims of a terrorist are often to destroy a state.

Your argument about N Korea is a bate and switch. Further, it is a poor example because we sold them fuel oil in exchange for their promise not to enrich nuclear materials. They broke the agreement so WE cut them off.

03-01-2005, 10:59 PM	#147
Lothar5150 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Surf City USA Posts: 433	jman1310 I don’t agree with the Democrat/Republican theory on winning wars…we only lost one war in the 20th century (Vietnam) and it lasted thru three presidents one democrat and two republicans. The loss was political not a military defeat. Korea was a success in that the political and military aims were meet as per the UN. Further, let’s not forget Kosovo was/is a success. (Ok, it looks like pdf27 made this point already) jman1310 & pdf27 Many pesticides and industrial chemicals are precursors for modern chemical weapons, in some cases it’s just a matter of concentration. Yes, most any industrial chemical plant can be put to use making chemical weapons…no paint required. BTW many of the Nazi camp victims were gassed with high concentrations of common pesticides. Castor Bean=Castro OilHydraulic FluidsCoatings for Vitamins and Ricin Nexxo You my beg all you like but you wrong here. Dictators give lip service to an ideology but they maintain control buy the use of fear and brutality. Terrorists maintain control of their followers by cultive personally and ideology. These are two are as different as apples and oranges. The aims of a dictator is to operate a state and maintain order, the aims of a terrorist are often to destroy a state. Your argument about N Korea is a bate and switch. Further, it is a poor example because we sold them fuel oil in exchange for their promise not to enrich nuclear materials. They broke the agreement so WE cut them off.