i have an older shuttle matx running a P3 866
and i love it
it's great for troubleshooting PCs and using as a HTPC (it's VERY small)
my gf has a fic ice cube 865 chipset 2.0 celly and i hate it
FIC is the devil - drivers are impossible to get
both are kinda loud, but do the job
OC is limited
if you want something very portable but still capable of gaming go for it
otherwise go big (or do both, i did)
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