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Cathar · 07-31-2005, 04:25 PM

Okay, I'll have to butt in again. Why I really don't like about this, again, is that the tone of the opening post and subsequent posts are immediately attacking towards me/Swiftech. The post is made as if to force me to respond, but in doing so it seems that there is nothing that I can say which cannot be construed as being in bad blood, and therein lies the exact problem with some manufacturer posting their own results in comparison with another manufacturer's active block. It seems like I can't say anything without appearing churlish because of the position that the whole scenario puts me in. Despite this, there are very valid questions that I have, so I'll present them anyway.

In the following two pictures, what is the red wire coming out from under the waterblock (highlighted by the pink circle)? Where are the missing opposing mounting springs and nuts (highlighted in red)? Were those springs/bolts used at all? I ask because it seems odd to me that they're missing in both pictures.

I notice too that the Swiftech mounting springs/bolts are used for both blocks, this despite that the Swiftech mounting springs and capped-nut are tensioned correctly for the Storm's mounting bracket height. They can't be used on a block of differing bracket height without altering the mounting pressure (either more or less).

Swiftech Storm

WEI Block

Regarding the reported temperatures. We are presented with line graphs of CPU temperature with both appearing to cap out at around 25C or so, but we are also presented with pictures of the SpeedFan temperature graphs here:

Swiftech Storm

WEI Block

My question here is that in the graph for the Storm block, despite it being horriby noisy, it seems to be averaging out at around 27C, which is 2C higher than presented in the line graph. In the WEI block's Speedfan temperature graph, it seems to be averaging out at around 28C, which is 3C higher than what gets presented in the line graph. i.e. by looking at the speedfan temperature graphs alone, one would come to a very different conclusion to that arrived from the line graphs that we are presented with.

So how were these figures of ~25C obtained in the line graphs? Were these figures obtained by an external diode? If so, where was that diode placed? Pictures?

No doubt, my statements will yet again be dismissed as merely being someone who has a vested interest in this, and as someone who has something to fear. Again, that is not my fault though, that is the exact issue that I have with these types of manufacturer vs manufacturer posts. It puts the opposing camp into a position that no matter what they say, their opinions can be attacked as "sour grapes" or whatever. I'll just present my views though and leave it to the forum members to assess. This is exactly why independent reviewers are needed.

07-31-2005, 04:25 PM	#21
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	Okay, I'll have to butt in again. Why I really don't like about this, again, is that the tone of the opening post and subsequent posts are immediately attacking towards me/Swiftech. The post is made as if to force me to respond, but in doing so it seems that there is nothing that I can say which cannot be construed as being in bad blood, and therein lies the exact problem with some manufacturer posting their own results in comparison with another manufacturer's active block. It seems like I can't say anything without appearing churlish because of the position that the whole scenario puts me in. Despite this, there are very valid questions that I have, so I'll present them anyway. In the following two pictures, what is the red wire coming out from under the waterblock (highlighted by the pink circle)? Where are the missing opposing mounting springs and nuts (highlighted in red)? Were those springs/bolts used at all? I ask because it seems odd to me that they're missing in both pictures. I notice too that the Swiftech mounting springs/bolts are used for both blocks, this despite that the Swiftech mounting springs and capped-nut are tensioned correctly for the Storm's mounting bracket height. They can't be used on a block of differing bracket height without altering the mounting pressure (either more or less). Swiftech Storm WEI Block Regarding the reported temperatures. We are presented with line graphs of CPU temperature with both appearing to cap out at around 25C or so, but we are also presented with pictures of the SpeedFan temperature graphs here: Swiftech Storm WEI Block My question here is that in the graph for the Storm block, despite it being horriby noisy, it seems to be averaging out at around 27C, which is 2C higher than presented in the line graph. In the WEI block's Speedfan temperature graph, it seems to be averaging out at around 28C, which is 3C higher than what gets presented in the line graph. i.e. by looking at the speedfan temperature graphs alone, one would come to a very different conclusion to that arrived from the line graphs that we are presented with. So how were these figures of ~25C obtained in the line graphs? Were these figures obtained by an external diode? If so, where was that diode placed? Pictures? No doubt, my statements will yet again be dismissed as merely being someone who has a vested interest in this, and as someone who has something to fear. Again, that is not my fault though, that is the exact issue that I have with these types of manufacturer vs manufacturer posts. It puts the opposing camp into a position that no matter what they say, their opinions can be attacked as "sour grapes" or whatever. I'll just present my views though and leave it to the forum members to assess. This is exactly why independent reviewers are needed. Last edited by Cathar; 07-31-2005 at 04:32 PM.