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I wonder if there's a place for "confidential" forums - something "by invitation only" and maybe even with actual paper NDAs - maybe even "non-compete" agreements.
Maybe it's already going on - and I just haven't been invited
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You n' me both fella! But yes, that idea popped into my head this morning as I typed my post... ThermoChill originally started out as a relationship of trust & finances between 3x UK Companies... but as time went on only one of those companies managed to survived. A lot of the UK stuff is handled co-operatively... for instance, we dish DangerDen products out to the smaller OnlineStores, and other imported goods that they simply can't afford to bring in and be able to resell competitively. Often it's a group order effectively between 3 or 4 stores all joining with us so that we all get the bulk discount... everyone then sells at a relatively fixed pricing structure so that we don't put each other out of pocket.
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As for the whole cloning issue. I'm sure that our memories are not so short, or that we are so narrow-minded as to only target the chinese & chinese factories.
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My apologies - I'm only targetting the Chinese sector here as that's the sector having the most direct impact on radiator sales and production elsewhere at the moment... and the only sector affecting me directly. In this case just the convenient example to demonstrate a point...
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Well I would argue that point to a degree. Quite often these cheap knock-offs are made to a far lower overall quality and finish because there is no pride and quality control.
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True true, but I'm referring more to the market sector that cares about cost and cost alone... y'know - that group of customers we both share similar views of

but yes, I agree on that point for sure