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Originally Posted by ricecrispi
JUST a little tense, man someone needs to go some shaitsu massage to relieve some of the tension. Man I'm glad i have some thick skin, I got a mouthful...
I'm about pushing ideas and constructive criticism. Not bashing them..... Well not all the time. If Dave is pushing for improvements I'm for it. The mobo header is not a bad idea and heading in the right direction which is good for everyone except for the rabid BF2 induced bitemark I got. I was just supporting the idea.
IMHO a pump shutoff is good but when you can shut off the comp at CPU temps of 50C or 60C in the BIOS whats the GODDAMN point. Not every mobo has that option though so I realize that and not everyone has load temps under 50-60C. Did i go screaming that idea is for stupid cheap ass WCing user who cant afford a decent mobo or a decent setup. NO, I realize the different types of users out there.
I'm just saying i don't mind someone pushing the envelope for WCing. If its an improvement in the looks, addons, performance, reliability, or cost area. As long it works properly I have no problem with it. If looks didn't matter we be all for dating ugly broods and not washing our cars and wearing ugly clothes JD.
Some people have better hearing than other. It's a shame i have bigger ear lobes than a normal person and more perceptive to things like a slight gust of wind. I'll ask my girl for a PB sandwich from across a room and she'll hear " I m not going to be part of a dp sandwich." I like to read and meditate andI don't want to hear a slight humming or clicking that i can hear from a htpc that is recording. For a gaming rig I don't care as much because i have headset on anyways. A pump is only dead quiet is because a person is deaf or the pump is off for my HTPC citerion.
In general I'm not into flashing things and I'm kinda cheap. I have two dfferent citerions for pumps. My gaming rig pump all it has to do is turn on and off, be relatively quiet, doesn't mysterious fail, have above AVERAGE performance and be light on my wallet.
I'm still looking for a pump suitable for my HTPC and fits my citerion for a HTPC rig. I want it so I can't hear it hum, click, slosh. Must be small enough for HTPC SFF or mini atx cases. I want it to be control by software because i don't want to open the box to change settings, and i can monitor so i can display it on my VFD if I like so i can impress my buddies or guest. So i do like to show off and justify build a $2000 rig. I better do that or I'd hear it from my lady.
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I am now even more confused. You want a quiet water pump for a HTPC? Why on earth would you even bother water cooling one? You don't need high end parts for such a comp. Drop in a AMD mobile CPU at 35 watts and underclock it and use a nearly passive cooling system. :shrug: Your hard drive will be louder than the cooling. And won't you be watching TV anyway? How are you going to hear it over that?
Another thing I find lacking sense is your 3rd paragraph. What idiot would have poor computer parts and then spend money water cooling it? Why not spend the money on water cooling to buy better computer parts? :shrug: You don't put a turbo on a car with a dying engine.
Next is the thermal shut off. Sure your bios will shut the comp off at 50+C but remember those little software programs that will shut it down at whatever temp you want? How is running that software any different than running software for pump control?
Also I am not bashing anything thing. Simply waiting for a logical reason why these things should be done. So far all I heard is excuses lacking logic. Still waiting for an answer to #1 above BTW?
After all your rambling there I still see no reason what so ever why such a thing needs to be done?