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ricecrispi · 08-23-2005, 05:09 PM

Its got the same power as a 1048, which is MORE than enough for an htpc, unless you're using stupidly restrictive blocks. However, its near on 3x the price of the mag, its ugly, its huge and you're paying for the monitoring software + extra crap you dont need... ring a bell?

I'm planning to get Storm blocks to replaced my Dtek ww and add one to my HTPC. I think I coverd Astek 12V costing 3x of MAG and underperforms it, ugly, big, and extra crap which I covered. You like being redundant?

Connect a molex to the power, another adaptor to the rpm, then make your own connector to fit it to the motherboard. Use speedfan to control the pump via temps.

I understand that but I didn't KNOW THAT. I just read the pump would run off a 3 pin header....

Ok, power. Quick maths, mag = 8w, assume 6v lowest operating point, assuming half the power used at half voltage, so 4w.
Ok, say 8cUS/kwh, over 4w. Which is 2.80 a year, assuming 100% uptime... 0.01% of your HTPC's cost. Seem worth it now power wise?

You forget watts = heat as well and psu wattage draw is .70-80% power and means I get more heat dump. Hey, $3.00 gets me one more beer for my friend or for me and I didn't do anything. That is why it's so good.

Noise - Apparently the mag is very quiet, as quiet as a 1048, which doesnt need undervolting. Even complete noise FREAKS dont consider the fact that it needs undervolting. Add a layer of foam, then a metal shell if you're REALLY wanting it to be quiet, but i doubt you need it...

You're not a noise freak so you shouldn't comment. MY pump would be isolated and foamed and rubber mounted but HTPC cases not same as normal ATX cases.
HTPC cases are smaller and SFF extremely small and transmit more noise with aluminum shell and frames. Again 3 pin header gives me the power to possibly reduce the noise with a turn of the knob. I know the MAG is quite, maybe the quietest around but quieter is always better.

At the end of the day, i see what you're getting at. But personally id rather that any possible problems be avoided, and more money go into the actual pump itself, to make it quieter. Personally, i dont WANT to know about the cooling in my htpc. If it fails, the comp should turn off. I dont need software to tell me anything, i have software telling me cpu temps, which is more than enough. If you want more, well, you can do it with molexs as i illustrated above, but really it just seems like overcomplication for no real benefit.

1) I'm getting tired of mofos commenting on HTPCs when they don't have one or never even built one. Seems utterly silly for someone to comment on a topic they have NO EXPERIENCE on. Think about that for a sec.

I'm doing what suits my needs, not to please some guys on Procooling. Jaydee and Etocvada spend all this time and money on DIY Waterblocks. Do i comment on your hobbies, no. Again i have no experience on it but i understand you guys enjoy it, bottomline.

2) I not retarded that i cant make my own 3 pin header off the current molex cable. I just didn't have that info till i read the post and wouldn't want to avoid warranties doing something i shouldn't do. Imagine if I ran a 3 pin header on a mcp 655 and it broke and returned it to Bill and he found out. What do you would happen? Voided warranty.

3)Offering 3 pin doesn't hurt anyone so why all the complaints? All you get is different 3 pin for MAG pump or current 12v molex. If it runs off my fancontroller then it is a positive for me. That's all to it so what you guys want to whine about next?

08-23-2005, 05:09 PM	#46
ricecrispi Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: california Posts: 429	Its got the same power as a 1048, which is MORE than enough for an htpc, unless you're using stupidly restrictive blocks. However, its near on 3x the price of the mag, its ugly, its huge and you're paying for the monitoring software + extra crap you dont need... ring a bell? I'm planning to get Storm blocks to replaced my Dtek ww and add one to my HTPC. I think I coverd Astek 12V costing 3x of MAG and underperforms it, ugly, big, and extra crap which I covered. You like being redundant? Connect a molex to the power, another adaptor to the rpm, then make your own connector to fit it to the motherboard. Use speedfan to control the pump via temps. I understand that but I didn't KNOW THAT. I just read the pump would run off a 3 pin header.... Ok, power. Quick maths, mag = 8w, assume 6v lowest operating point, assuming half the power used at half voltage, so 4w. Ok, say 8cUS/kwh, over 4w. Which is 2.80 a year, assuming 100% uptime... 0.01% of your HTPC's cost. Seem worth it now power wise? You forget watts = heat as well and psu wattage draw is .70-80% power and means I get more heat dump. Hey, $3.00 gets me one more beer for my friend or for me and I didn't do anything. That is why it's so good. Noise - Apparently the mag is very quiet, as quiet as a 1048, which doesnt need undervolting. Even complete noise FREAKS dont consider the fact that it needs undervolting. Add a layer of foam, then a metal shell if you're REALLY wanting it to be quiet, but i doubt you need it... You're not a noise freak so you shouldn't comment. MY pump would be isolated and foamed and rubber mounted but HTPC cases not same as normal ATX cases. HTPC cases are smaller and SFF extremely small and transmit more noise with aluminum shell and frames. Again 3 pin header gives me the power to possibly reduce the noise with a turn of the knob. I know the MAG is quite, maybe the quietest around but quieter is always better. At the end of the day, i see what you're getting at. But personally id rather that any possible problems be avoided, and more money go into the actual pump itself, to make it quieter. Personally, i dont WANT to know about the cooling in my htpc. If it fails, the comp should turn off. I dont need software to tell me anything, i have software telling me cpu temps, which is more than enough. If you want more, well, you can do it with molexs as i illustrated above, but really it just seems like overcomplication for no real benefit. 1) I'm getting tired of mofos commenting on HTPCs when they don't have one or never even built one. Seems utterly silly for someone to comment on a topic they have NO EXPERIENCE on. Think about that for a sec. I'm doing what suits my needs, not to please some guys on Procooling. Jaydee and Etocvada spend all this time and money on DIY Waterblocks. Do i comment on your hobbies, no. Again i have no experience on it but i understand you guys enjoy it, bottomline. 2) I not retarded that i cant make my own 3 pin header off the current molex cable. I just didn't have that info till i read the post and wouldn't want to avoid warranties doing something i shouldn't do. Imagine if I ran a 3 pin header on a mcp 655 and it broke and returned it to Bill and he found out. What do you would happen? Voided warranty. 3)Offering 3 pin doesn't hurt anyone so why all the complaints? All you get is different 3 pin for MAG pump or current 12v molex. If it runs off my fancontroller then it is a positive for me. That's all to it so what you guys want to whine about next?