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Etacovda · 08-23-2005, 05:57 PM

man, someones a little touchy. My post does seem harsher than its intention, however.

I will say one thing however, it would serve you well not to assume things in the future;

A) 4w of heat is completely negligible, a harddrive at idle uses 12w or more.
B) offering 3 pin suggests that it will work on all motherboards. Not so, older boards have lower power thresholds, a very large number of socket A boards only handle 8w, which obviously enough is enough to burn the header out on the motherboard at starting with a MAG. Its not a good feature for a manufacturer. Hell, c-systems can do whatever the hell they want, but as a manufacturer, its just asking for trouble in my opinion. You always have the option of doing the molex mod yourself. More features ARE a good thing, but for a company introducing potentially harmful features is foolhardy, and in the US probably grounds for legal complaint. Basically you're suggesting a company add an option on a pump that they claim is silent already, for literally zero benefit (assuming the pump is silent) which could introduce problems for the user AND possible lawsuits?

C) I AM a noise freak. I own a 1048, I sold my AQ50z because it was too loud for my tastes; most people call those pumps 'quiet'. I find my enermax noisetaker at lowest fan speed at idle too loud. If i can hear it, its too loud. I cant hear my 1048 when its running in open air, let alone in the back of my HT rack in my HTPC. Im considering a MAG, but only after some independant reviews and some time to see if its MTBF lives up to expectations, and that it doesnt get significantly louder over time.

Yeah, I have an HTPC which has been, and will very soon again be watercooled (for the fun of it, and for a mod that im doing - not because its neccessary, because its simply not) and im a noise freak. Dont assume things, eh?

08-23-2005, 05:57 PM	#47
Etacovda Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dunedin NZ Posts: 735	man, someones a little touchy. My post does seem harsher than its intention, however. I will say one thing however, it would serve you well not to assume things in the future; A) 4w of heat is completely negligible, a harddrive at idle uses 12w or more. B) offering 3 pin suggests that it will work on all motherboards. Not so, older boards have lower power thresholds, a very large number of socket A boards only handle 8w, which obviously enough is enough to burn the header out on the motherboard at starting with a MAG. Its not a good feature for a manufacturer. Hell, c-systems can do whatever the hell they want, but as a manufacturer, its just asking for trouble in my opinion. You always have the option of doing the molex mod yourself. More features ARE a good thing, but for a company introducing potentially harmful features is foolhardy, and in the US probably grounds for legal complaint. Basically you're suggesting a company add an option on a pump that they claim is silent already, for literally zero benefit (assuming the pump is silent) which could introduce problems for the user AND possible lawsuits? C) I AM a noise freak. I own a 1048, I sold my AQ50z because it was too loud for my tastes; most people call those pumps 'quiet'. I find my enermax noisetaker at lowest fan speed at idle too loud. If i can hear it, its too loud. I cant hear my 1048 when its running in open air, let alone in the back of my HT rack in my HTPC. Im considering a MAG, but only after some independant reviews and some time to see if its MTBF lives up to expectations, and that it doesnt get significantly louder over time. Yeah, I have an HTPC which has been, and will very soon again be watercooled (for the fun of it, and for a mod that im doing - not because its neccessary, because its simply not) and im a noise freak. Dont assume things, eh? __________________ Hypocritical Signature I tried to delete: Procooling: where scientific principles are ignored because big corporations are immune to mistakes and oversights.