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Unread 09-03-2005, 10:26 PM   #7
BGP Spook
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Thank you for you responce Etacovda.

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Originally Posted by Etacovda
The via aqua has a poor service record - so be sure to mount it somewhere that it wont do damage in case of failure.
Which was the purpose of the reservoir. I have heard of this pump being leaky before. I thought that since the Via Aqua was a little noisy, I would be able to hear if it quit working suddenly.

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Originally Posted by Etacovda
Use hose clamps, its a small outlay compared to frying your system. Theres no way id trust zip ties on an mcw600x block - but they come with clamps anyway.
The only connections that will be inside of the case will be the block. Which as you pointed out has its own metal hose clamps. The pump will be in the reservoir so not much need to worry about those leaking. Which leaves the heatercore. I believe careful use and application of the zip ties will seal the hoses quite well.

Am I mistaken in this assumption? As I stated in my first post a major factor in evey purchase decision has been cost. Should I abandon the notion of using zip ties all together or is it workable?

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Originally Posted by Etacovda
Use a T-line if you're lazy, less chance of failure than a res.
See first response.

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Originally Posted by Etacovda
vinyl tubing is a PITA, you'll love clearflex/tygon - its worth the outlay.
(What is PITA? I have seen it being thown around but I am unfamiliar with it.)

I have thought about it alot. Believe me I would like to use clearflex or tygon but the cheapest I could find clearflex was 60 cents a linear foot plus shipping. If I bought 6 feet of hose and cheap shipping I would shell out upwards of $9. If you could tell me of a place which would put it in my hands for $4-$5 then I might reconsider.

Compare $9 to the cost of me driving down to Lowes and paying 12 cents a foot pluse tax.

Given my goal of a sub $100 system it just doesn't add up.


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Originally Posted by Etacovda
Not a huge difference in performance with 10% antifreeze. pH's waterblock testing is done with 25%, iirc. Im sure someone will correct me on that. Theres no real data on radiator/pump performance with and without antifreeze that i know of.

"So if your loop only has copper, brass, and pump is in a Laing D5, is there any reason to use antifreeze?"

Not really. People claim that it has anti-bacterial/anti-fungal properties, but personally ive found that if it does, its weak. Ive gotten algae growth on two occasions using gycol based anti-freeze at 10/15%. Personally i use distilled water and a small amount of anti-algae solution from an NZ fish products distributor.
Thank you especially for this last part.

Since I am now near the assembly stage (I am waiting for the pump to get to me) I have been thinking about what additive to use.
I am a little hesitant to not use any anti-corrosive, even though I only have copper in the loop. (I think it is just paranoia on my part, though.)
However, where I live algae/fungus/bacteria (general growth in water) are a major concern.

I will have to price anti-growth additives and do a new cost analysis, since I was hoping the anti-freeze could "kill two birds with one stone" as it were.


Thank you again

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