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. . . . . BTW how objective is that "certain grumpy engineer who's maintained a highly respectable status in the PC water cooling" ?
Is he involved in design / manufacturing of competing radiators ? well if that's the case, he can't be really objective now can he?
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get fu*ked Bruce, you would project your dishonesty to include me
don't presume to hang your marketing spiel sh*t on me
you are in good company with your whoring accusations, Joemac, Jeremy at Silverprop, all your type
listen dung head, if I post a number it can be replicated by anyone with the interest
stop whining and how about you doing some testing ?
- instead of making unsubstantiated allegations against those who do test ?
do you have an instance of bias that you can cite ?
then wtf are you saying ?
that I lie ?
hey Bruce -. get fu*ked
Bill Adams
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I never called you a liar, but you're claiming that I'm dishonest???
is it the outcome of your freaking reliable test results?
GO F***K YOURSELF BILL!
I used to have lot of respect for you, and now none at all!!!
and don't you dare calling me dishonest old fella!!!!
I have nothing to do whatsoever with the folks that you mentioned, so i don't have a fu*king clue what you're talking about...
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And just a heads to everyone, a certain grumpy engineer who's maintained a highly respectable status in the PC water cooling field for quite some time has made some vague references to these new rads. The impression I got was that the performance of this line would be underwhelming. This is deffinitely a product in which you'll want to wait for the reviews before upgrading.
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Aren't you the one posted comments below, when pH received his single-pass Pro3:
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BillA: pretty clear what it is, a BIP 3 single pass
lots of capacity there !
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BillA:I would give Willie credit for his rads, they are in fact 'made for computer cooling'
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BillA: Willie has had that single pass for some time, its just not available from retailers
Swiftech had no interest as Willie sells also directly to our distributors,
no way to make a buck - not gonna be offered (by us)
you will see that single pass is not necessairly better, it all depends . . . .
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BillA: this is a very fine radiator for a particular purpose
we all understand that this is not for the mass market
but its fine here at procooling
nice work Bruce
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So after HWlabs finally started offering the single-pass BI radis to the mass market, all of a sudden you started making "vague references" to these rads, giving people the impression that the performance of this line would be underwhelming? What is the reason for this 180 degree change I wonder?
Is it because you designed competing BS radiators for a Chinese manufacturer?
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Bruce:
welcome back Bill
did you design those radis?
I thought those radis are also from China, no?
FYI a company from China contacted me about those radis couple times within the last few months...
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BillA:
Hi Bruce
yup
and yup
and yup again, the Chinese will retain the right to sell
(the blue paint is cooler)
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Bruce:
oh OK... so you designed those radiators, applied for a patent, and the Chinese are going to pay you royalty? aren't you guys supposed have some type of exclusive rights on them?
BTW I didn't understand how exactly the patent-pending self-purging brass plenum chamber thing works?
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BillA: thats all Bruce, want more talk with Gabe
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You can not even give a freaking straight answer to simple Qs anymore like you used to eh Bill?
aren't you the one that used to comment about preventing the Chinese from taking over the US market?
aren't you the one that found Chinese radis low tech?
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this is not a new issue, the Chinese will take every market for low tech products - and rads are low tech
I have several and they perform comparably to those of their type
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So WTF? Are you a flip flopper now, or what?
Did you post any test data to support your claims regarding the X-Flow radis, or making vague references is just enough ?
Apparently I'm not the one who does word play in order to bad mouth competing products...
Erick gave me a big surpsrise when he released cheap Black Ice Xtreme rev.1 knock offs... and you started working with him now... so how unbiased are you against competing products now ?
what's your next project? a cheap Storm knock off made in China?
don't flatter yourself with this engineer with integrity BS...
call me a box pusher if you will, i don't give a f**k... I'm not an engineer, and never claimed otherwise... there are tons of engineers with integrity over @ the Pro/forums, which I have tons of respect for, and you're not one of them anymore...
you ruined your good reputation yourself, and don't try your stupid tricks on me... so go f***k yourself you grumpy old engineer who used to be highly respectable...