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Unread 10-09-2005, 09:23 PM   #69
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Originally Posted by Cathar
It only persisted for 4 posts or so. My apologies. Consider it a momentary interruption of service before the regular schedule was re-instated, somewhat like a BBC news bulletin in the middle of some WWF "theatre".

As for the rest of the thread, I find it morbidly fascinating in the same vein of flipping through the TV channels and accidentally landing on Jerry Springer during some particularly vituperous tirade. No winners there or here.

Times must be tough. Everyone for whom the food that gets put onto their dinner table at night comes from cooling sales is paid for by sales of cooling products is "in it for the money". That's not a crime. Pretty silly business model to expect of anyone to put hours in for nothing. I only do so because I am very happily funded in my real job. Over the last 4 years waterblocks have accounted for 0.8% of my effective income, and that 0.8% gets fed back into R&D. If it were not for my real job income, I would never have been able to be as involved in cooling as I am. It is rather unfair though to use me as an example to club people involved in the cooling industry with. If the cooling industry puts food on your table, you're in it for the money too, and are in no position to level this accusation at others. It's only natural that people would seek to make money in the industry, otherwise what's the point?

Nobody is truly clean in business, that's the nature of the beast, otherwise you will go out business in fairly short order. True integrity and altruism is a liability when in competition. No company or person is going to publish performance results from their own independent testing if such testing finds that a competing product is superior, or equal but cheaper. They'll just sit on the data instead until they can come up with a superior solution, or they'll omit certain data and present only the angle in which their product is superior.

As for marketing, every business stands on its own two feet. It's more honorable for businesses to acknowledge the derivations and forebears of their products, and market their products as independent items on their own merit. In a conflicted world, this is the best that we can hope for.

Making competitive performance statements for/against competing products of the ilk for which one derives life-style sustaining income from, without presenting a full and open test procedure and published test data is always going to be fraught with peril and will always generate much angst, regardless of the actual intentions, honesty and integrity of the persons involved. In short, almost this entire thread has been one huge bun-fight, causing tremendous amounts of public profile damage for all of the main antagonists.

C'mon lads, lets put the egos and pride away before more damage is done and focus on doing what you guys all do best, which is designing better products for everyone, and cast them into the breeze of public opinion to succeed or fail as the public is wont. Engaging in self-destructive competitive battles in public forums just makes losers of everyone involved. If people are calling people liars, then the best way to answer is with open verifiable proof, rather than open destructive indignation.

Can we get some professionalism here?
well said... and thanks for taking the time to write this

I have better things to focus on, so I'm done here...
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