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Originally Posted by 9mmCensor
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Scott and Lee, you are referred to post#183
there are many things I may not discuss
please do not assume that because you are not told, that something stupid was done by Intel, Swiftech, or myself
why would anyone, having gone to the trouble to make a dual core TTV
we will assume, then use it to replicate a single core - when such single core TTVs already exist ?
- apply this to Intel, Swiftech, and the guy doing the testing
all incompetent ? possible, but not probable
Scott
I accept that your questions are genuine; each model improves on that before
if the tool were so flawed, do you not think that a better one would be developed ?
you are assisting in the 'condemnation' of a test method about which you, and clearly Cathar, have no experience and little real info
I am unable to do other than share my experience in a general manner
it is rather strange that the only 'info' accepted w/o question is from Cathar, who has ok testing (we accept) but no hard data sets at all
yet those who do provide data are subjected to claims of bias, stupidity, incompetence, etc
Lee
I wish you luck in dealing with the IHS issue
there seems some (considerable by those who do such) anecdotal evidence that the AMD IHS/CPU TIM joint degrades with repeated mountings (and thermal cycling if sub-zero),
I have not heard of this issue with Intel CPUs (anyone ?)
-> so if you use an AMD CPU, how do 'we' know its TIM joint was/is ok ? (how do we measure 'ok' ?)
I would suggest that a before and after test be defined to 'qualify' the internal TIM joint to eliminate this question (raised by Cathar and does need to be directly addressed)
it you groove your CPU, you could then play head games using all the different CPU temps available for a rainbow of C/Ws (of course W is not known either); a pissing contest par excellance (which I KNOW is what you do not want)
you will have difficulty 'selling' bare die data to IHS users w/o defining the correlation, a task I would not assume
perhaps better to present bare die and IHS data separatly, the user selects that which relates to their actual application
realism never hurt