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Bill, look at the 14mm DIE tests, a Koolance block spanks the apogee... That is horrible. Before the TTV came into Swiftech's hands, this block would have been considered a dog. Even with the 32mm die it performs like a waffle. No apologies here at all, I expect to see similar results with pH as well.
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I'll apologize for agreeing with Scott if pH's results are substantially different from Robotech's (read: in line with Swiftech's numbers)