[nikhsub1]

Bill I'm still having a hard time wrapping my brain around some of your thoughts... gimme time but at this point it is making little sense to me. So are you saying that the Apogee, MCW6002 and the Storm are all identical in performance? The Maze 3 as well? Yes the apogee does appear to cool the EDGES of the IHS better than the Storm, that is just it, the edges and that is exactly what Lee's data is suggesting - for focused core cooling it is a dog, for cooling a large secondary heat path it is doing OK. Even with the 32mm slug it doesnt even outperform the 6002! WTF? Lee's data suggests the 6002 is a far better design, at least to me anyway. Maybe I am just being retarded or not getting it, but the apogee is NOT a performer.