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Unread 12-06-2005, 07:56 PM   #59
Cathar
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Default Re: Swiftech Apoggee review by Robotech systemcooling

What I don't understand is this. We have literally dozens of engineering review articles detailing the variability of TIM interfaces with respect to pressure and flatness. We have an incredible amount of evidence to show that these interfaces vary for whatever reason, pressure and flatness being the two main culprits.

We have a testbed that appears to be producing odd results. This testbed introduces a second interface via a TIM + IHS. We have these odd results forming the basis of a marketing campaign for a new waterblock, strangely enough with a flexible base-plate (pressure/flatness above anyone?), and somewhat unsurprisingly for that which independent tests can't verify the claimed results.

We then have a disgruntled ex-employee who is still owed a lot of money by said company which has taken a rather large financial gamble on this new block, and he's putting his hand over his reputation and stating that we should ignore everything we've come to know about the variability of TIM interfaces, and accept that the TIM interface on the Intel TTV is now suddenly and conveniently invariable, and to believe that everything else is faulty or irrelevent.

Say what? Come again? I don't care if there is any shred of legitimacy in the apparent reasons for asking everyone to ignore established facts, but heck, it sure doesn't look good. I am sorely annoyed that Bill has chosen to label any of my calls for a quite basic level of reasoning and derisively refer to them as:

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Originally Posted by BillA
a “Stew approved” test mechanism
I contend that the mechanisms need to prove themselves, before all of us, not for any one individual, especially in light of what we know about the proven variability of interfaces. If any mechanism comes along and is generating results that don't agree with established procedures, and introduces new variables that are known to cause variance, then the ABSOLUTE LAST thing we should be doing is then saying "No. The device introduces no variances" in absolute contrast to established facts about interface variances.
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