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Etacovda · 12-09-2005, 06:43 PM

And, pray tell, what is the end PURPOSE of a waterblock ben?

Damn, theres getting interested in the science of waterblocks, then theres COMPLETELY IGNORING THEIR END TASK.

"Is overclockability a measurement? A Storm's cooling is very localized, Apogee's is not." So? NOONE with a shred of a brain cares what their reported cpu temperature is. They care what their overclock is, thats what a waterblocks end purpose is. Its just that, until now, it was/is considered not scientific enough for testing purposes. I think thats out the window with the 'throw a tc on the side of an IHS edge' testing method thats doing the rounds now. If we're going to get this off-hand about how blocks should be tested, i think its perfectly valid that the only actual end varible that matters (the overclock) should be tested, even if it is imperfectly (because NOONE can call these IHS tests 'perfect'). Obviously this test would need to be done with a waterchiller etc, its not just a straight madshrimps window open, drug addled moronic l3d review - there would have to be constants involved...

I never assumed all temp measurements were wrong - i said the cpu tests that Lee did were CLEARLY not showing us anything, as was shown by the maze3 test.

spending too much time planning your test bed and not enough actually thinking about the end task of the DUT?

Im all for testing, and getting it RIGHT - but lets not forget the end task of the damn DUT, because otherwise it wouldnt exist. As i also said in the post i linked, it wont be a be-all and end-all, its a nice side discussion whilst other things get done.
Id also really like to see the mushroom shaped, single piece heat die based on a dual core and an IHS solution - but that wont be done for a while, so why not do the overclocking tests?

Another side topic (im good at this) - if this was a german block tested this way, say, a year ago - theres no way in HELL anyone would accept these results. This whole thing just seems so... un-procooling like.

Im looking forward to what pH's results are, actually.

12-09-2005, 06:43 PM	#7
Etacovda Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dunedin NZ Posts: 735	Re: IHS or not? And, pray tell, what is the end PURPOSE of a waterblock ben? Damn, theres getting interested in the science of waterblocks, then theres COMPLETELY IGNORING THEIR END TASK. "Is overclockability a measurement? A Storm's cooling is very localized, Apogee's is not." So? NOONE with a shred of a brain cares what their reported cpu temperature is. They care what their overclock is, thats what a waterblocks end purpose is. Its just that, until now, it was/is considered not scientific enough for testing purposes. I think thats out the window with the 'throw a tc on the side of an IHS edge' testing method thats doing the rounds now. If we're going to get this off-hand about how blocks should be tested, i think its perfectly valid that the only actual end varible that matters (the overclock) should be tested, even if it is imperfectly (because NOONE can call these IHS tests 'perfect'). Obviously this test would need to be done with a waterchiller etc, its not just a straight madshrimps window open, drug addled moronic l3d review - there would have to be constants involved... I never assumed all temp measurements were wrong - i said the cpu tests that Lee did were CLEARLY not showing us anything, as was shown by the maze3 test. spending too much time planning your test bed and not enough actually thinking about the end task of the DUT? Im all for testing, and getting it RIGHT - but lets not forget the end task of the damn DUT, because otherwise it wouldnt exist. As i also said in the post i linked, it wont be a be-all and end-all, its a nice side discussion whilst other things get done. Id also really like to see the mushroom shaped, single piece heat die based on a dual core and an IHS solution - but that wont be done for a while, so why not do the overclocking tests? Another side topic (im good at this) - if this was a german block tested this way, say, a year ago - theres no way in HELL anyone would accept these results. This whole thing just seems so... un-procooling like. Im looking forward to what pH's results are, actually. __________________ Hypocritical Signature I tried to delete: Procooling: where scientific principles are ignored because big corporations are immune to mistakes and oversights. Last edited by Etacovda; 12-09-2005 at 06:49 PM.