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Unread 12-10-2005, 10:38 PM   #109
Joe Camel
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Default Re: Swiftech Apoggee review by Robotech systemcooling

thought this thread could use some eye candy

here are a few pictures to look @ and maybe stimulate some...thing.



a 3500 Venice



same 3500 Venice



3200 Winchester



FX-55 fresh out of my MachII after about 8 months of benching / gaming



same 3500 Venice and approximate thickness of IHS (.094")
(micrometer slid over the rim and around the area with TIM)



same 3500 Venice (CPU and IHS facing same way)



a FX-57 that some idiot killed while HACKING the IHS off



IMO:

phase-change VS. water:

hard-core benching (which is about the only thing cascades and LN/Dice tubes are good for) and OCing are quite different. most gamers and *STABLE* home-office PC's that are OCed arn't phase cooled. (A perfect example is nikhsub1) they are two different crowds and buy/use quite different hardware.
(im looking for a new TEC WB to mod for my GPU, so this block is of interest to me)

IHS:

as much as i HATE the introduction of the AMD IHS, i dont think the water cooling community can ignore its existence. (as 95%+ of users will never remove the IHS and/or the probable non-removable IHS of future CPU's)


"real-world" IHS VS. die temps:

could one modify an IHS by milling a slot through the sidewall, and if needed, part way into the face of the IHS so that a thermal probe could be inserted "under" the IHS and come in contact with the (side of) core?

as much we all HATE "MBM5 temps" and thermal probes on the side of a die / IHS, id say its about the best you can do to *TRY* to produce "real-world" data...

without an industry standard test-bed (as imperfect as it may be) were all chasing our tails


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here are a few shots to remind us of what its all about...

same 3500 Venice (NAKED ) @ 3GHz

IDLE:


LOAD:



Storm G5, D4 pump @ 16V (back removed and fan cooling MOSFETS), BIXII, 4x100+ CFM fans



i keep my basement at a nice cool 65F during the summer.
(NOT a running PC but the exact set-up that produced the first screen-shots)




GOOD LUCK!!


PS

Cathar,
keep the faith...dont let the buggers wear you down:
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A64 Phase cooled:
FX-55 @ 3204MHz (267x12) - MSI Neo2 - MachII - OCZ DDR Booster & VX @ 3.6V , 267 @ 2,2,2,5 1:1 - x800 XT-PE @ 665/608 - DD Maze4 with 172w TEC 14V TEC PSU - 500W X-Connect PSU

A64 Water cooled:
3500 Venice @ 3000MHz (300x10) - DFI LP Ultra-D - Storm G5, D4 pump @ 16V, BIXII, 4x100+ CFM fans - OCZ VX @ 3.6V , 300 5:6 = 250 @ 2,2,2,6 - x850 XT @ 600/630 - socket A HSF & 80mm Tornado , copper mem sinks - OCZ 600W PSU

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