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Originally Posted by BillA
ask Lothar about Lothar
testing, data, better performance; thats my program
pH is dead in the water, he cannot define what he purports to measure (the die temp)
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pH is the only one on the track I like and think most people here like. However we see that track is broke at the moment.
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I guess you resent my starving to be able to do that which I wish,
all about choices
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I don't resent it at all. I just can't comprehend what results you are after and why. It doesn't seem to jive with what most enthusiasts are after. Whatever an enthusiasts is anymore.
I followed your lead on the die sims just to figure out it was not worth the effort. And now find the only few approaches are not worth the cost. I know I do not have the cash to build a new Presler or dual core AMD machine specifically for testing and then buy whatever equipment and then do whatever mods. We are talking $1,000's here. Not $100's. When you do get a bench going and take your tests and get your results they will be useless to next gen parts and CPU's. So what is the point?
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reviewers are not concerned with the future, they test what is available today
all this changes continuously, if that is too much be a librarian
I do not know if a review site will groove an IHS, that would qualify for "pro", no ?
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Reviewers are always two days late and $10,000 short. They hardly do today's stuff. How many dual core AMD machines are used for reviews? I have not seen any. This is the problem. Toms and Anantech (and a few others) are the one's that have the ability to keep up but they choose not to and for a reason. The ends do not justify the means.
Pro? Could be. If that is industry standard then I guess. However I deal with industry standards every work day and can say they are not always Pro. Who will and why if the next CPU will be out in 6 months and you have to buy another $2,000 worth a computer parts and mill another CPU and re-calibrate the bench to keep up? And what about your old results on old platforms? Toss out window...
Anyway keep doing it however you want to do it as you have a reason for it and motivation for it. Just don't get to pissed when others can't figure out how to apply your results to anything. That seems to be the biggest problem right now.
It is pretty sad though when end user reviews seem more usefull than bench testing.